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Need help IDing rose please!

Posted by Barb268 Central NYS (My Page) on
Thu, Jun 12, 14 at 13:41

This rose has been in my friend's yard for well over 30 years, and the woman who lived in her house said it was there over 30-40 years before that. I have researched this until my head spins. It's not remontant, it's about 6' tall, but I think it's because it grows under a high canopy of maple - maybe a rambler or it's just so out of shape never having been cut back. It has a very lovely fragrance that smells like a sweet peony, but not quite that strong. There's a green center eye. Flowers are about 2.5-3" wide when open and it ages to a dusty mauve. Small prickles. Someone told me they thought it's a centifolia. Leaves are matte green and more rounded than most leaves. I live in Central NYS where we had a rough winter (lots of established plants and roses have died because of it), but this came back just as strong as ever. Does anyone have an idea about this rose? Thanks so much!


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RE: Need help IDing rose please!

Just a thought -- check out Russelliana (a.k.a. Russell's Cottage Rose). If it's that one, the shape of the buds will be telling.

Here is a link that might be useful: HMF link for Russelliana


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RE: Need help IDing rose please!

I doubt it's Russelliana the petal arrangement isn't quiet right.
My first thought was he Rambler Astra Von Parapat but then the petal arrangement reminded me of so many of the deep rose or red Gallicas that can reach up to 20 ft that would be blooming in your area now.


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RE: Need help IDing rose please!

Another vote for Russelliana, given the description of the plant, bloom size and overall behavior. Can you pot a photo of a bud (not yet open) to show the sepal type? Does it bloom with clusters of three or more? The leaf certainly looks right for Russelliana.


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It sure could be Russelliana: button eye, bloom color (bloom should open full and fluffy), bloom size, fragrance (I'd call it "old rose" or damask scent), foliage shape/character/color, prickles, and plant size and habit (can make a nice climber or spreading fence plant). Russelliana is a tough, enduring, old variety. Once-blooming. Disease free (or nearly) in my experience. This variety dates to 1820s. A great rose! Carol

This post was edited by PortlandMysteryRose on Thu, Jun 12, 14 at 22:45


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Oh, and look for hips in the fall. I pulled out one of my rose books because I remembered that William Welch noticed that the new foliage has a pine-like aroma. I'm not anywhere near a Russelliana to test his opinion, but maybe this characteristic will help you ID your rose. Carol


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Thank you all so much for your help! I'll check out buds and try to post another photo and get a whiff of foliage.


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