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Posted by
odinthor z10 CA (
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Sun, Jun 15, 14 at 14:43
| The subject of my Bourbon 'Gustavus Vasa' came up in a discussion of its sibling 'Charles XII'. I finally managed to take some pix of GV. Here's one (of three) . . . |
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RE: Bourbon 'Gustavus Vasa'
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| Here's another, head on . . . |
RE: Bourbon 'Gustavus Vasa'
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| And here's an opening bud . . . Thanks for your interest! |
RE: Bourbon 'Gustavus Vasa'
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| Brent, that is one rose I should really like to have! My husband and I are taking our youngest granddaughter, 5 years in a few weeks, to the Uppsala cathedral tomorrow to see the real thing because she used to play going by train to Uppsala cathedral without having been inside or knowing what it was except that it's a landmark. We will show her Gustaf Wasa's tomb but we won't explain much as she's too young. It is enough to let her experience the size and splendour of the building. Marianne |
RE: Bourbon 'Gustavus Vasa'
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| That's gorgeous! I feel ignorant - who was Gustavus Vasa? |
RE: Bourbon 'Gustavus Vasa'
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| Marianne, enjoy your visit to Uppsala! I've been to the cathedral there, and stood in reverence at Linnaeus' tomb (L. was a Smålander, just like half of me); and enjoyed his research garden elsewhere in the city. (And of course "odinthor" had to visit Gamla Uppsala and consume some mead in honor of the old gods...) organic tosca, thanks! The short answer as to who GV was is that he was a Swedish king in the time of the Reformation. For the long answer, I've put a link to the Wikipedia article below . . . And before anyone asks, a Smålander is a person from the province of Småland in Sweden. I wouldn't change my ancestry "for all the butter in Småland" (Swedish saying). |
Here is a link that might be useful: Wikipedia on Gustavus Vasa (Gustav I)
RE: Bourbon 'Gustavus Vasa'
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- Posted by fogrose zone 10/sunset 17 (My Page) on
Sun, Jun 15, 14 at 22:40
| Brent, that's a seriously beautiful rose. I bet the fragrance is heavenly. Alas, Bourbons don't want to live in my garden. Diane |
RE: Bourbon 'Gustavus Vasa'
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- Posted by AquaEyes 7 New Brunswick, NJ (My Page) on
Sun, Jun 15, 14 at 23:15
| It really resembles its parent. Did you put the pollen from another rose on there, or did you collect hips after the bees did their work? Do you think it might be the result of a self-seeding? I have to say that 'Souvenir de Victor Landeau' is one of the healthier roses in my no-spray NJ garden, so maybe it's a parent worth pursuing for healthier Bourbons. In any case, good work on raising this seedling! :-) ~Christopher |
RE: Bourbon 'Gustavus Vasa'
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| Thanks, Christopher! It's a selfing. My hybridization efforts tend to be selfings; my main effort in the non-selfing line has been to cross 'Marbree' with 'Archiduc Charles' approximately a zillion times . . . and with nothing to show for it. Fortunately for what's left of my sanity, my 'Marbree' finally dwindled away a couple of years ago, so that ended that effort. All of the 'Souvenir de Victor Landeau' offspring show a family resemblance, and have a strong tendency to be robust, healthy growers. Bourbons x Teas are often wonderful roses--I think I'll try crossing SdVL, or CXII, or GV with 'Safrano' or 'Devoniensis' or the like, and see what happens . . . |
RE: Bourbon 'Gustavus Vasa'
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| fogrose, thanks very much! It's a mega-bummer that you can't have Bourbons in your garden; but it all evens out in the wider view: Most of the old European once-bloomers are, in my garden, old European never-bloomers, so we each get something and miss out on something. Back to GV, the fragrance is rich in quality but moderate in strength (at least, in my rather dry air). |
RE: Bourbon 'Gustavus Vasa'
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- Posted by AquaEyes 7 New Brunswick, NJ (My Page) on
Mon, Jun 16, 14 at 0:46
| I was thinking about Bourbons X Teas as well. I tried my first attempt at pollination this year, but I'm not holding my breath. I put pollen from 'DLFED 3' onto 'Quatre Saisons Blanc Mousseaux' but it was basically a one-shot deal. The former provided only three flowers this year (it was just a cutting when I got it last year), and they opened before any on QSBM -- so as per Kim Rupert's advice, I clipped the anthers into an empty pill bottle and stuck them in the freezer. When QSBM opened a few flowers, I dusted what little pollen I had on any open blooms, then tore off all the petals so I knew not to deadhead those buds. Time will tell if that worked. But back to Bourbons X Teas, I was itching to try 'Souvenir de Victor Landeau' X 'Lady Hillingdon', but my LH died back to the ground after this crazy Winter, and is still on the rebound rather than blooming. The idea behind that cross is that LH is triploid, so there's a good chance its pollen would be diploid, and the resulting seedling would be a tetraploid (assuming SdVL is also tetraploid). To be honest, though, I'm still doing "construction" on my garden, so my attempts are really only half-hearted for now. If hips form, my next challenge would be getting the seeds to germinate and grow -- something I've never tried before with roses. So before I get serious with pollinating, I want to practice with random hips from the garden. If I get something from QSBM that will be a bonus. Sorry to hijack with my digression... :-) ~Christopher |
RE: Bourbon 'Gustavus Vasa'
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| I am surprised that a descendant of Smålanders should have named a rose for Gustav Vasa. One of the most serious rebellions against the king occurred in Småland. Nils Dacke, leader of the rebellion, should be a more suitable name :-) On a more serious note: my friend Allan who translated your essay on the Billberg labyrinth for Rosenbladet with me, suffered a massive cerebral haemorrhage in February and was in coma for many weeks. He's getting better now but his recovery will take a long time. Marianne |
RE: Bourbon 'Gustavus Vasa'
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| Marianne, please send Allan my best wishes for a smooth-running and thoroughgoing recovery! There are always times of frustration; but keeping one's thoughts on the ultimate goal helps one past these. Right, about Gustavus Vasa and Smålanders . . . but I thought I'd take the lead in an effort towards national unity. It seems to have worked: Since I named the rose, there have not been any Smålander rebellions against the king, nor royal military occupations of Småland. Coincidence? I think not. |
RE: Bourbon 'Gustavus Vasa'
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| I love Bourbons and that is a beauty! |
RE: Bourbon 'Gustavus Vasa'
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| Thanks, labrea! With luck, someday propagations of it will become available . . . |
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