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| I put up an album of some of the unidentified roses at the San Jose Heritage Rose Garden. Please see if you know any of them. Thanks, |
Here is a link that might be useful: Unidentified roses
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| How old are they likely to be? The orange rose looks like it could be a Kordana miniature ('Sunsplash', maybe?), but obviously not if it's an old rose. |
Here is a link that might be useful: photos of 'Sunsplash'
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| No. 18 also isn't Banshee, BUT the bud shape is Banshee's as are some of the leaves shapes. Propensity to PM is also shared. Maybe a seedling? Those two shapes are so identified with Banshee that it's a shock to see them with a strong single deep pink bloom. |
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| Could the first rose be 'Nearly Wild'? |
Here is a link that might be useful: 'Nearly Wild' photo at HMF
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- Posted by jill_perry z9 CA (My Page) on Sun, Jun 29, 14 at 12:45
| They aren't necessarily old. The purple one with the lemon (or lemon balm) scent was just donated to us by a person who couldn't care for her roses anymore. And we collected some of Ralph Moore's roses up until he died. Number 18 has been identified as 'Carlin's Rhythm' by Kim Rupert. So no relation to Banshee. Sun Splash Kordana certainly looks like the orange-yellow rose. It's not listed on Helpmefind, so I'd like to see more about it. Thanks for the link to those pictures. |
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- Posted by jill_perry z9 CA (My Page) on Sun, Jun 29, 14 at 13:22
| Yes, it is 'Nearly Wild'! I was just looking through a list of roses we'd had in the nursery and couldn't find. I saw that and looked it up. Glad you agree. I'm still having trouble with the 'Sunsplash Kordana' It's not on the Kordes website, either. There is a J&P rose Sunsplash, so I'd presume the Kordes rose would have another name in the US and a registration name, but I can't find them. I googled the name, and found another picture of it on another foreign site, but it also has nothing about the rose. Jill |
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| I wondered about the 'Sunsplash', and whether it might be an Asia-only release or simply an Asia-only name with the same rose going by another handle in other parts of the world. I did see an 'Orange Kordana' and a 'Vulcano Kordana' that maybe, kinda, sorta looked like 'Sunsplash' and one of those could be 'Sunsplash' by another name. They didn't quite look the same, but the differences in appearance could just be lighting or bloom maturity or photo color processing, or...? I'm glad 'Nearly Wild' will now get the recognition she deserves- she's a pretty plant. I hope you figure out what your monster plant is before we all know it as the rose that ate San Jose... Good luck, |
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| Did you figure out your purple rose with the lemon scent? If not, have a look at 'Chartreuse de Parme', and see what you think. HMF describes it as having a citrus scent, so that's kinda close... |
Here is a link that might be useful: HMF photo of 'Chartreuse de Parme'
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- Posted by mendocino_rose z8 N CA. (My Page) on Mon, Jun 30, 14 at 8:44
| The purple rose, 1st page 4th over looks to me like Stephen's Big Purple. |
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- Posted by jill_perry z9 CA (My Page) on Wed, Jul 2, 14 at 0:49
| I see the response I made yesterday didn't post. Anyway, John Starnes also mentioned Stephen's Big Purple. I'll take a look at the one we have in the nursery on Saturday. It's young and hasn't bloomed yet, but should have the same foliage and prickles. It's a likely one because it was sold at Regan's, and the person we got it from would have picked it up locally. She's not a rosarian, and wouldn't have ordered her roses from a catalog or online. Jill |
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