Is Wisely 2008 a slow starter bloom wise?

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Posted by roselee z8 SW Texas (My Page) on

Fri, Jul 13, 12 at 9:37

My own root Wisely2008 bush is big and healhy, gets plenty of sun, and has had a total of about 7 or 8 blooms in its entire almost 2 year life span. I'm wondering if it is one of those slow starters. However, I'm losing patience and am wondering if it's even worth the wait. It doesn't have very many favorite votes on HMF. Since rose growing space is at a premium I'm about ready to remove it. I have other roses waiting in the wings, but thought I'd ask on here first.

The bush is in the foreground. The color you see directly behind it is from bougainvilleas ...

What do you think?

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Posted by krista_4 NY (My Page) on
Fri, Jul 13, 12 at 15:47

I have a two year old Wisley 2008, grafted.

It has not produced many blooms for me either, however the Austins can take 5 years to mature, so I don't know how prolific a bloomer it will be down the road....

I love the sweet fragrance and the blooms are lovely as well. For me, this seems like a rose that's worthy of waiting for, however, there is no certainty as to how it will be in the future.

Some of my other Austins have had better repeat bloom as they matured.

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Posted by dublinbay z6 KS (My Page) on
Fri, Jul 13, 12 at 16:51

I just looked it up on the David Austin site--what a lovely rose! The posters (photos and comments) seem to think it is very good on rebloom--calling it a nearly continuous blooming rose. Unless it started developing disease problems, I'd give it at least 3 years to start performing with some maturity. Heck, I'd probably give it 4 or 5 years, if needed. It certainly is lovely.

Kate

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Posted by roselee z8 SW Texas (My Page) on
Fri, Jul 13, 12 at 17:14

Thanks Krista and Kate. You are probably right. It was only released in the US in 2010 so there really hasn't been enough time for anyone here to know how it performs. It was released in the UK in 2008. Guess I should give it another year (or two ... sigh) and then Krista and I, as well as others, can come back and let others know then.

If anyone else has experience with it I'm all ears.

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Posted by campanula UK Cambridge (My Page) on
Sat, Jul 14, 12 at 8:11

no, its a rubbish rose. Many, many complaints to DA followed the release of this rose although I believe it was meant to be an improved version.

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Posted by roselee z8 SW Texas (My Page) on
Sat, Jul 14, 12 at 8:25

Thanks Camp! Can you recall some of the specific complaints?

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Posted by campanula UK Cambridge (My Page) on
Sat, Jul 14, 12 at 17:01

Initially, Wisley was released along with another three roses named for RHS gardens - Wisley was quickly withdrawn and Wisley 2008 was a replacement...but unfortunately still carries many of the faults of the earlier rose - a habit of throwing long ungainly canes (sound familiar) with stingy blooming and a very slow repeat.

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Posted by roselee z8 SW Texas (My Page) on
Sat, Jul 14, 12 at 17:30

Camp, much appreciation!

I poised my question on HMF's comment section to a person from Spain who said it was a continuous bloomer. If I get a reply I'll let y'all know.

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Posted by jumbojimmy (My Page) on
Thu, Feb 14, 13 at 5:06

I'm interested in growing this rose... any changes to all those comments above? Is this rose still no good? I'm planning to replace my claire austin with this rose..

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Posted by Anyi zone 17 (My Page) on
Thu, Apr 24, 14 at 17:39

I have Wisley 2008 planted 2 years ago. It has been blooming profusely for me. This year is the big year, 5' tall and 4' wide and covered with buds. The blossom is 3' across, smaller than other David Austin roses I have. I think it is a good rose to grow. No disease and very healthy.

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