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Rose Rosette Disease Roll Call

Posted by hartwood 7a VA (My Page) on
Mon, Jul 8, 13 at 10:06

I was thinking about the responses that everyone posted on my thread here last week about Rose Rosette Disease on ‘Crepuscule’ in my garden. Some of us deal with RRD regularly, others have had it once and not seen it again, and still others do not have it in their garden or in their region of the US or in their home country.

Let’s see if we can all chime in with our location and whether or not we have had RRD, hoping to see if we can make a map of which of us has had Rose Rosette Disease and who hasn’t. (There are maps out there online, but the most commonly available one is YEARS out of date.)

I will start:
In my garden in Stafford County, Virginia, RRD is a fact of life. It is all over my area … in gardens, in commercial landscapes, and in the wild. I have had three roses affected so far this year, and 13 last year. There were a few cases in previous years, but I did not keep track of them as well as I should have.

Who is next?


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Not quite as bad here in the exact center of the U.S.--more specifically, southeastern Kansas.

I have had 4 cases of RRD in the last three years. (None this year--cross your fingers!) I had vaguely heard about it (on this forum) a couple years before that, but I had never seen a real life example of it until my rose got it three years ago. In the last year or two, I have seen or heard of a couple cases of RRD in this region. Right now I'm keeping a close eye on my neighbor's Pink Knock Out--suspicious growth on it--but I can't convince her it might be a serious problem. She figures she can just keep on cutting that branch back (I told her about the problem last fall).

So it is around and about in this region, but not excessively so.

Kate


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Yes for central Ohio - on a hand-me-down florabunda that I loved both for its color and for its story.

I tried pruning and denial last year but the symptoms came back this spring about 5 times worse. I am in the process of digging out my wonderful, 7 x 12 foot friend now.


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Oh my a sad subject------we live in Bucks County--Pa.a couple of miles south of Washington Crossing---Pa

We are across the river from Trenton N.J.

Lost Dr. Van Fleet---it was a beautiful bush --raised from a cutting we brought back from Martha's Vineyard----

a huge New Dawn--------

one of my Zephirine Drouhin plants---I will be devastated if I lose my beautiful mother plant----

My gorgeous Paul's Himalayan Musk-----(horrors) is showing signs----breaks my heart

Florence


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I am in southwestern Pennsylvania, Indiana County. I had my first case of RRD on New Dawn in 2003. I lost several other roses after that. Because it was so heartbreaking to me, I stopped buying and planting new roses. I noticed an infected cane on Marchesa Boccella earlier this summer. I cut it off. I should probably check it again.

There is a lot of multiflora rose in our area and on some of our property (20 mostly wooded acres), but I haven't looked recently to see how much is infected.

It would be an impossible task to eradicate it on our property alone, and it would just show up again via birds. It grows in many fields in our rural area. I have read that one plant can produce 500,000 or more seeds that can continue to sprout for many years and the seeds are dispersed by birds, so fresh seed is available every year. It is a sad situation.
Marcia


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  • Posted by seil z6b MI (My Page) on
    Mon, Jul 8, 13 at 18:01

St, Clair Shores, Michigan, north of Detroit on the lake. I haven't had it here, thank goodness, nor have I heard any of my local rose society friends having it. But...it is in the state because other friends in Lansing, Grand Rapids and Saginaw/Bay City areas have reported it. I'm sure it will eventually show up and I keep a constant watch for it.


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No RRD reported in PDX area to date according to local Rose Society chapter. None in my garden, although I encountered some weird growth this year on my Lady Banks. I went into "what if I'm the first gardener in PDX with RRD" mode and posted on the forum.

I'm so very sorry about the losses to RRD. My kindred gardening spirit and rose-loving heart goes out to you all.

Carol


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None here in central Florida.


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Connie, et al. I believe Ann does track RRD. Perhaps she can provide an updated map and/or statistics.

Myself, Roanoke, VA. I've lost 50+ to RRD since Sept 2010, most during that first wave. Now, other pop out with it, but I'm not sure it is a new infestation. But it is rampant here.


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Let me just add myself for right now.

Ann in Grainger Country Tennessee. Fourteen years experience with RRD to my immediate north and then in my garden.

I now grow my roses dry and have a lot fewer modern roses (in part because I find it hard to save moderns by early removal of a cane.)

RRD is out there and massively a problem in a lot of the landscape plantings of Knock Outs in Knoxville. Lots of roses there to track the sickness over years. Five years in one planting until all were dead.

My worst loss, 2% was when my roses were well watered and the surrounding world was very dry. Hypothesis: drought makes the mites more prone to dispersal.

Over a decade ago I predicted the problem wouldn't be solved in my lifetime. I've seen nothing to make me rethink that.


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Here in Maryland RRD is everywhere!I've lost alot of my roses this year its really devastating!!


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Here in Maryland RRD is everywhere!I've lost alot of my roses this year its really devastating!!


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It has not yet shown up in my part of California, the SF Bay area. I don't know if it exists elsewhere in this state, but if it does, it is not at this point widespread.

For this, I am truly and humbly grateful.

Rosefolly


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Deleting accidental duplicate.

This post was edited by rosefolly on Tue, Jul 9, 13 at 11:09


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Here is suburban Chicagoland, Illinois, I have had to take out 2 roses last summer that had the very strange-looking growth, likely RRD. I removed the soil they were in and replanted, and so far, no symptoms have been seen...hope all continues well t this year. The roses were both grafted, probably on multiflora, a Seafoam body bag from Home Depot, and a Mary Magdalene from Pickering.


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So far so good. No RRD. To my knowledge it is not in this area yet. I am vigilent and watch cautiously.
Location: Western Washington. The very bottom of South Puget Sound.My heart goes out to all who deal with this miserable mite.


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Here's in northwest of Chicago, I have one affected with RRD last year, with multiflora parentage. We had a drought last year, and it was planted next to a tree, plus I put too much acid fertilizer high in nitrogen.

This year with good rainfall, none whatsoever. My soil is alkaline clay.


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No RRD is present in my home area of Ada County, Idaho. The dry desert only supports the hardiest of grasses and brush, so there are no wild multiflora anywhere around here. I am sorry for my fellow forum members whose roses have been lost to this vicious disease, and wish that more national attention were focused on it, along with some major research on how to eradicate it. Diane


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Nana,
Do you have wild R. woodsii near you?


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I have had none. I live in Central Alabama. I understand it was foud on one Knockout rose in Birmingham, so I try to keep a really close lookout and so far so good.
kay


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I've only lost 2 roses at home but many many at the organic rose garden in Norfolk, Virginia where I volunteer. A huge KnockOut hedge was infested and not removed promptly, causing losses all over the rose garden of both antiques and moderns. The affected roses in the garden all seemed to be downwind from the infected KnockOut hedge which was about 75 to 100 yards away. When we started seeing infected plants in another--much closer-- hedge of white, pink, and red Drifts we removed the entire planting---ouch! I would say losses amount to about 20%.
We did a dormant oil spray this spring and also did a lot of cutting back, and that seems to have helped. But the main thing we have done is remove any infected bush and all the roots we can find and put the infected material in a body bag.


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Yes in NC. MichaelG and i live about thirty minutes apart, in Multifloraland, and we have got it. I bought several KOs from a bigbox store last year, and last week i ripped all of them out for RRV. (They were in a streetside hedge.)
Now i'm casting a vigilant eye upon a remaining KO hedge formed from bushes that were scattered all over the yard when we moved in.


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It is certainly here in Jackson County, MO. I have been dealing with it, and I have seen it on plantings around town. I currently have two bushes showing symptoms. I have been using aspirin along with some other anti-virals just to see if they will work. One of the two plants has shown symptoms twice before. The first time was a full witch's broom growth. It went away after cutting back and given aspirin. Then it returned with some deformed growth. More aspirin. Last year nothing. This year it is back with some unusually red growth and more thorns than usual, but not deformed. I don't know if I am making any progress, or if I am just hoping for some luck, or if it is a lost cause meaning I will have to get rid of one of my regularly repeating old garden roses. So, I am scratching my head on this one. Even though I have a second plant of it, I hate the thought of digging it up, spraying it with hair spray to glue any mites onto the plant, and burning it in the BBQ grill. Any thoughts? Am I wasting my efforts?


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the_bustopher, you may also try hydrogen peroxide, You may also try grafting some roses to understock from native species roses that have been shown to be resistent. See the link below for a very recent (Published online 2013 May 22) grafting understock scientific research paper.

Here is a link that might be useful: link for grafting understock scientific research paper.


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I live close enough to anntn6b that I don't need to go into details. But my latest victim of RRV was a 30 year old City of York (HUUUUUUUGE), started from a cutting of a now-bulldozed family heirloom. I'm a tough guy, but I cried.


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fig----I know how sad it is to lose a long loved rose---it does make us cry---all rose lovers will understand

Florence


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10-3-13 update
After ripping out 11 of my rose bushes in July I got word from our local horticulture expert that my roses did NOT have RRD! I re-planted several of the roses I had taken out, only 2 made it. I purchased & planted 10 new roses (own root) and they are all doing very well. Now to get them through the winter :) I noticed strange looking new shoots/stems on my John F. Kennedy HT but I'm not touching it - instead attributing the weird looking new growth as healthy new growth, which is what it is. I'm relieved and I hope that stuff never gets to Colorado!
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July 2013 - Appears to have found my 1 year old rose gardens in Broomfield CO. I grew gorgeous roses in AZ for many years and never saw anything like this horrid stuff. I had no clue what it was until I started searching the symptoms online. This is definitely heart breaking. All but 3 of my roses were ordered from David Austin or Heirloom Roses - 15 in all. The 3 from a local reputable nursery who grow their own stock. I called them and they did not know what RRD was! Stopping to get Sevin tonight on way home, hoping that might help prevent from spreading.....but not encouraged by what I have read so far about RRD. Very sad.

This post was edited by Dayna_5301 on Thu, Oct 3, 13 at 21:45


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Thanks for the sympathy, Florence. If misery loves company, we should all be ecstatic. My garden has been decimated this year, not just by RRV, but by deer, rabbits, groundhogs, voles and chipmunks! But I think my feelings are hurt worst by the invisible varmint that travels on the wind. It just ain't right, lol.

John


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Only one this year to RRD, though I have lost more in the past and my mother's garden in the Maryland area was devastated by it because I did not notice and remove the roses promptly there.

I also have rabbits and chipmunks -- the chippies are digging holes everywhere and lost a rose to the digging by its roots.


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I had it here in north central NJ for the first time this year. Had to take out a 20+ year old Wind Chimes, which was one of the few grafted roses in the garden. So far all the others look fine (knock on wood).


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Ann, just answering your question of a few days ago about r.woodsii. There are no wild roses near here of any kind. We have only sagebrush and things like cheat grass, Johnson grass, goat heads, button weed, and more, plus a few nicer plants like flax which pops up when we have a rare rainfall. Here's a view from my backyard. Diane


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Tulsa, OK. It has been a problem here for years. Last spring I discussed RRD with the nursery where I purchase roses in Texas. The man, not the owner, but a young man who has been watching an internet site designed for growers, gave me some good information.

He said the mites land in the upper parts of the rose, and live there longer than we used to think. He said I should prune my roses way down in the winter, because they may not have worked their way into the rose at that time where they could do damage. He said that by drastically pruning them, it would be good for the roses, and also help get rid of the mites.

Of course by the time we see the damage, it is too late to do anything. I sent him a picture of one of my Maggies because its appearance was not clearly RRD to me. He said to get rid of it.

I think this advice makes sense. Regardless of where i find the distortions, the entry spots are at the top of the rose where the wind brings them in. They move down slowly.

I cut all my roses back like he said in March, and you couldn't tell it by the end of April. They really grew back fast.

Sammy


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I lost Mrs. B.R.Cant to RRD in '09. She was a huge beautiful bush with hundreds of blooms that spring. I had RRD verified by NC State Univ.. So far I have stayed clear. All the Knockouts in one area at our church are affected. The lady who gives the orders to the landscapers will not listen to me that they should go. Obviously the landscapers know nothing either. I am in the Sandhills of North Carolina (central part).


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Sammy,
I don't agree with your source, nor does Jim Amrine.

You aren't worried about the mite movement anyway. You worry about the mite feeding on the rose and the virus moving through the plant through the phloem and then through the xylem.

Cutting back in fall when a rose has been infected already for several months makes no sense.

The statement "Of course by the time we see the damage, it is too late to do anything" is wrong. Many of us have saved individual roses by removing an entire cane when the disease has just begun out on a cane.

The nursery industry is a Johnny come Lately to dealing with RRD.

Nana,

Make sure that there are no woodsii down in the bottoms of the draws. Woodsiis can take a lot more drought than most roses.


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Sunnync, I probably live downwind from you in NC. If you have any real interest in attempts to control this horrific scourge, kindly provide the name of the church. I'm more than willing to contact the "lady who gives the orders to the landscapers" and add my 2 cents to your concerns.

Were I a parishioner at that church, the matter would already have been dealt with -- whether the lady approved or not.


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I have not had it in my garden. But, it was reported in Somerset County in central NJ. I believe it has also been reported in southern NJ.

I thought that a local landscaper had reported it to me. But when I inquired further, it turns out that she was a heavy used of a popular herbicide around the roses. I told her that you can't spray this stuff around the roses, you will get the "witches broom" effect. She pooh-poohed what I said, and stormed off. I'll assume that she's torn out the roses by now.

This post was edited by diane_nj on Mon, Jul 15, 13 at 9:55


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Where are the Texans? I do think it is a problem in Texas too, but i just scrolled up, and see no responders.

A friend of mine here has a planting of Knock Out roses, and has read that Knock Outs have RRD in epidemic proportions. She said many things about Knock Outs, but her information just did not sound like what others here have been saying.

Also what about Henry Kusco? I may have not spelled his name correctly, but he usually gives information when this subject comes up.

Sammy


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Not yet in my garden in southeastern Nebraska, but if Kate in SE Kansas has had it and others in Missouri and Oklahoma, I'm presuming that will change for the worse. Sympathies to all of you who have suffered from this scourge!

Cynthia


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Sammy,
One of the reasons that Knock Outs have problems is that they are planted by people who don't look at them, that something goes wrong and then goes much more wrong and a disaster is finally declared. Also roses along roads are more likely to have mites moved along a road by cars (and even trains) that carry the mites in their turbulence zone.

Knock Outs get RRD because there are so many KOs out there, now and they stay sick and are a source of infection for other KOs in their mass plantings.

Re Texas: Gardeners in Houston and Ft Worth have had serious problems. The late Field Roebuck from that area was the first to put RRD in a 'modern' rose book, but he died before it got into his garden. I also know of someone near Tyler who had RRD on Mermaid.

Henry Kuska is the person you're remembering.


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Sammy, early on I thought that I had some rose rosette virus cases, but later on (copied from an earlier thread):

"From memory: early on I had a number of "RRV type" infections and I removed the whole plants. This was over several years. At some point I put the dots together. The infections were either in the bed that was immediately downhill from the neighbor that had a lawn service or were very close to where I had used a herbicide on newly sprouted poison ivy (many places among my 1000 roses). I changed the bed next to the neighbors to a raised bed and stopped all herbicide use (except corn gluten meal). I have had zero cases since then."


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Ok let me chime in from the good ol peach state Georgia!! I live in NW Georgia and noticed my first case 3 or 4 yrs ago on a double pink knockout. The next rose was Huntington. Since then I have had to dig up about 3 or 4 a year but about 10 this year. More than half have been knockouts. A few climbers and a few others. Very frustrating. Waiting and hoping for a cure!!! Judy


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Dayna

IS that RRD? My Austins show some pretty weird growth at times. They look a lot like yours. I'll post some The Prince photos. Maybe Ann can confirm RRD.

Ann, in your opinion IS that RRD on Dayna's rose?

Carol


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Top photo shows thorny red growth curving out from cane. This growth normalized over time as per usual.

Next two photos:
Close-up of red growth and clusters of flowers which looked rather "broomy" a couple of days before the photo was taken. Also photo of a close-up of thorns.

Odd growth but not RRD to my knowledge.

Carol


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Thorns.


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I have been obsessed with this RRD thing for days. I submitted pics and my questions to "Ask An Expert" and she said my photos do not look like RRD and that it has never been reported in CO. So, I went back to the drawing board and Googled "healthy growth on roses." To my surprise the pics online were similar to mine. I got to thinking and remembered that I did spray weeds before these symptoms started appearing. So, now I'm thinking my roses have herbicide damage. So, PortlandMysteryRose I believe you have the same thing going on as I do. Great...after I ripped out several of my roses.


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The red growth at the top as well as red shoots coming out from the root are apparently healthy new growth. It is sure weird looking, but this is the first time I have grown roses in CO and the first own root roses I have grown.

This post was edited by Dayna_5301 on Wed, Jul 17, 13 at 9:55


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To my knowledge, no RRD in Las Vegas Nevada.
It is dreadful and I hope something is discovered to stop this plague upon roses.

Lynn


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Dayna

I'm so sorry that you lost a couple of roses to caution, but I'm glad you don't have RRD! My Austins (and sometimes others) often produce odd new growth. I don't use herbicides, so other factors must be at play. Weather? Water? Who knows?

Happy gardening in CO. It's a beatiful state!

Carol


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Portland Mystery--looks like normal growth to me. Many new canes and laterals start out red and then slowly change to normal green. Nothing to be alarmed at.

Kate


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Carol
Thanks very much for your sympathies! It has been a heart breaking experience for me, but at least I know what's going on now with my roses. I won't do anything rash in the future! It could be the weather, water, or as you say, who knows. I grew the most beautiful roses in AZ for years, where the growing season there is almost all year 'round. So I'm probably not in tune yet with the effects of real seasons here in CO. I'm pretty certain they were affected by the drift from weed spraying, which never entered my mind when I was doing it. Live and learn...

I really enjoy this forum, very helpful and great people :)

Cheers!
Dayna


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I live in central Illinois around the Peoria area.

My property is rural and is I know there are multiflora roses in the woodland area. This year so far, my hubby has removed about 10 mature HTs, 5 minifloras, 1 Buck, and last week, 'Funny Face'. Three years ago I turned the western rose garden into a conifer garden because the mites always traveled the winds through that area and it was a death-knell for any roses that I planted there.

I predict that within 5 years at this rate of infection that most of my roses on the northern slope will be gone.


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My ORG Renae just went down with RRD. I had noticed suspicious growth earlier this spring, but then it bloomed out beautifully and kept on growing. She was climbing up an old redbud over my pond and her feet were surrounded by hostas and lemon balm. Today, while I was cleaning the pond, I saw new RRD type growth and then, because the deer have eaten the hostas, I noticed a number of black, twisty and very dead branches. So out she came. As I've mentioned elsewhere on RRD discussion, hybrid musks seem especially prone to RRD, presumably because they have a lot of multiflora in them.


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Alas! Rose rosette is in North Texas. One of my neighbours had three beautiful knockouts that he had to remove. Another neighbour across the street just discovered rose rosette on her three beautiful red knockouts. Personally, I have a William Shakespeare 2000 in a pot that I purchased online from David Austin that looks very suspicious. I thought it was because of my neglect re frequent water, but alas it looks like the dreaded RRD. God help us I have over 50 roses and cannot bear the thought of losing them. Just to answer the queries about RRD in Texas. Hang in there fellow rose growers!


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Keeping my fingers crossed that it won't show up in Sacramento. Reports of it some years back on wild roses in the far northern part of CA - nothing in gardens that I know about. I've seen it in Ohio and it is simply heartbreaking. You folks who grow roses in the face of it, and Japanese beetles and chili thrips and fire ants and blackspot, are my heroes. We Californians have had it so easy - hope it lasts.
Anita


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I've seen nothing on my roses, thank goodness. I live in northern Vermont, in the Burlington area on Lake Champlain. This time of year the leaves are changing and it's glorious!


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Anita,
You need to talk to Baldo and ask to see his pictures.

Re Vermont. You aren't that far from Syracuse NY and they have had RRD in their city rose garden.


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Yikes! I didn't think it was that close to me. Thanks - I'll keep an eye out.


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Regarding reports of rose rosette disease, if they were reports before the PCR tests were developed or were not substanted by that test or by the grafting test, or (at least) by observing the actual disease carrying mites, they may have actually been herbicide damage. I would add that I would be particularly suspect of reports from city gardens, roadway plantings. and other areas where more than one person was in charge of garden maintence and when a number of roses were observed to get the virus at about the same time.

Here is a link that might be useful: my rose rosette virus comments


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No rrd here for me in York S.C. The stories I read here are hearbreaking, but I'm grateful for all of the postings as I now feel educated on the subject and not only can I monitor my own roses but when I take a walk I can be observent in the area surrounding me.


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Apparently it has now been reported in Europe.

http://www.rosebreeders.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=54197

Here is a link that might be useful: link to above statement


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Ah yes, the rumours of RRD in Poland have been circulating for a couple of years now.....but clearly, given the global trade in, well, everything, it's fairly clear the question is not if but when.


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The Polish sick roses that had some symptoms (quite a lot, really) in common with RRD happened in production greenhouses.
Check papers authored by Kaminska et al. who reported phytoplasmas as the cause of their problem and also (IIRC) leafhopper transmission.

My ebook has the references in the bibliography, if you feel inclined to search.

Here is a link that might be useful: Rose Rosette E-book


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Ann, I doublechecked with Baldo. He has found RRD way way up north in Modoc County and on into Oregon and also in Truckee. Both times on a wild rose, R. woodsii, and eastern side of the Sierra Nevada. So far no sightings on the western side in California and none on any other type of rose. So far, so good.
Anita


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In the rose forum, a member who uses the name "rose specialist" shared that there is the possibility of virus transfer through Mycorrhiza fungi. I checked Google Scholar and found that a very recent (2013) Ph.D thesis is available on this subject:
http://www.biblio.colpos.mx:8080/jspui/bitstream/handle/10521/1999/Cruz_Gutierrez_EJ_DC_Edafologia_2013.pdf?sequence=1

Here is a link that might be useful: link to Ph.D. thesis in Spanish, abstract in English.


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I am in Richmond Texas, SW of Houston. I have seen no RRD here although there are rumors of it north of us. None of the plentiful wild rose in the area is infected.


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Um, Henry, I don't speak Spanish but could see that the virus in question was from the tobacco mosaic family. Not the same thing at all.

Although I am not remotely versed in viral transmission, I am chary of ascribing the same results to different virus families.


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campanula, scientists look for "tips of icebergs". If no plant virus was found to be transmitted through mycorrhiza fungi, then there would probably not be any concern.

This is not my theory. I assume that this is what scientists trained in the area of plant virus spread are proposing should be investigated.

The link below explains where the poster heard it.
http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/load/roses/msg102241481001.html?9
"Henry, I came across this thinking while attending a woody plant conference at swarthmore college. The college has the Dean Bond Rose Garden and RRD was showing itself."
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The link below is to a recent (2008) review of plant virus transmission through fungi.

Here is a link that might be useful: recent (2008) review


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Has this mite spread from east to west or has it just manifested in multiple areas? Reading posts, it appears the areas that have not been affected thus far are in the Southwest primarily, or have I overlooked something?

My heart goes out to those affected, but I am wondering why not here; not that I want it, but what is different?

If ever there was a systemic or a spray to ward off RRD, that would be the one I would buy. I only hope that researchers are progressing towards eradicating this plague.

Lynn

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Lynn,
The vector mite was first found in a canyon east of San Diego in the (?) hip of a native rose. The first description of the mite is in a huge taxonomic study of mites .

The link is to the chapter in my E-book about the history of Rose Rosette. If you haven't seen it, it might be worth your reading it as it has citations to the papers on which it is based.

Here is a link that might be useful: Hisory of Rose Rosette


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It's not in my central Florida garden. I haven't heard of any cases in Florida. The RRD vector would have to fight it out with the chilli thrips.

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RE: Rose Rosette Disease Roll Call

None in my garden. The grounds here came with the usual roses: New Dawn, Yellow Banksia... Maybe the screen of trees at the property's perimeter catches the mites before they can settle on the roses. More likely, the incessant spraying for mosquitoes kills them, like it's killing the birds. The strategy for eliminating West Nile is apparently to kill all living things (including people), so that there will be nothing left to catch the disease. In addition to the poison trucks, there are a lot of affluent Rednecks, whose grounds are fitted with various systems emitting endless streams of poison - sometimes sprayed directly into the air - sometimes mixed into the automatic sprinklers' supply. One of the local tennis clubs actually advertizes that their courts are "misted". And none of the little idiots have a CLUE what is being sprayed. So, the air is toxic, 24/7 . Mites, owls, and bluebirds don't stand a chance.. (mosquitoes, however, are thriving)

I've asked the young surgeons who bought our old house from before we moved to Oregon, and they've found no witches' brooms on the nine varieties I planted there: not even on the Rosa Laevigata scrambling up the trees, or the New Dawn cascading from a tall screen of Cryptomeria. That house is out in the one-third-acre 'Cheap Seats', where there are a lot of those odious "Knockouts", which seem to be the primary RRD 'reservoir' in the Bible Belt.

I've looked up into tree canopy on the surviving stretch of unchanged forest on Madison Avenue, and can't see any signs of distress in the Laevigata naturalized there. And the plantings of 'Drift' roses I've had a chance to inspect on commercial properties seem fine. We're south of the Mississippi Delta, which supposedly is RRD-free due to the heavy spraying of insecticides (it's an intensively farmed area). Maybe that's checked the southward spread of the mites. However, the prevailing winds come from areas southwest of us. I'd expect mites from Texas...

This post was edited by plan9fromposhmadison on Wed, Oct 9, 13 at 18:43


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