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| Those of you that don't live in the San Francisco Bay Area might wonder why my forum name is "fogrose." Well, I live in Pacifica, CA which is a town near San Francisco, right on the ocean. When conditions are right (usually all summer although this summer is proving the exception) we're fogged in, either a high overcast layer or sometimes a living breathing ocean of fog that is spectacular to behold when you're on the other side of it. I know this isn't about roses per se but it's the condition that effects the roses I can grow as it leads the roses to think they've been put in a refrigerator. Here's a link to a beautiful time lapse video of our fog. Diane |
Here is a link that might be useful: The Fog video
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| That's beautiful, Diane. Thanks for posting it. Some may not realize just how dense the coastal fogs can be, nor how you paid extra to live with it! That fog can reduce the summer heat up to fifty degrees compared to what it is just a few miles inland. It also evens out winter temps, keeping the climate milder and more even, not to mention a whole lot wetter. It's odd being on the hotter, inland valley heat side of the mountains and seeing the fog flow over the tops and through the depressions like a huge, gray wave. Often, like something right out of Stephen King! Kim |
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| Yes Kim, glad you liked it. I also thought it was beautiful. I've got this love/hate relationship with the fog. I curse it when my roses ball and don't open or that Annie Laurie McDowell still seems too chilled. But just let there be a few days of hotter than normal (like this summer!) and I long for the fog's moist return. Before I moved to Pacifica I lived in the Noe Valley neighborhood of SF which is just east of Twin Peaks. I loved sitting on our back deck and watching the fog spill over the peaks like a white river. The neighborhood (Vallemar) I live in Pacifica is part of a "banana belt of sorts. On some days Montara Mountain which is the southern end of Pacifica will hold back the fog until it flows back inland just north of our neighborhood. I love those days. Diane |
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| Hauntingly beautiful, Diane. The rhythms and cycles of fog have been an intrinsic part of my life (always within 50 miles of the CA coast), except for the 20 years spent back east. As a volunteer for the Golden Gate Raptor Observatory's fall migration count at the Marin Headlands, we could watch the fog roll in under the Golden Gate Bridge, like in the film, from the top of Hawk Hill. Some days, we would be standing above the fog, and the UV reflection off the top layer could quickly sunburn the area underneath your chin. Fog makes you very aware of topography. In Pacifica, for example, Linda Mar Blvd. could be totally socked in, but the Shamrock Ranch, hardly a mile away and slightly higher elevation, might be totally sunny. Fog moderates the temperatures even here, inland, most of the time. (Hellooooo, Mr. Fog -- it's been 6 days already here above 100 degrees -- when are you coming back?) I'm sending this link, of course, to my daughter who lives in San Francisco (and often complains about the fog). Thanks for the post! |
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| Should add, Diane, that your roses of the same variety do seem to bloom at least a month later than mine inland, based on the photos you posted recently. |
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| catspa, I love going to Hawk Hill to watch the raptors. I sometimes pretend I live in England as my roses are so much later than most of the Bay Area. We started with fog this morning but it's gone for now. Will try to send you some when it returns. Diane |
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- Posted by PortlandMysteryRose 8 (My Page) on Wed, Jul 3, 13 at 22:46
| For various reasons, when traveling, I frequently ended up flying through either San Francisco (always fogged in) or Chicago (always fogged, winded, snowed, iced, etc. in). I can identify every crack in the airport ceilings and locate any restroom on the premises. On the positive side, SF fog outside the windows is quite mysterious and film noir in character. :-) Carol |
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| Carol, yes the fog definitely gives San Francisco it's film noir atmosphere. Especially at the location where Miles Archer was shot by Brigid O'Shaunnesey : > In the people pic thread you asked what kind of artist I was. Check out http://www.dianefenster.com Diane |
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- Posted by PortlandMysteryRose 8 (My Page) on Thu, Jul 4, 13 at 1:47
| Diane Thank you for the link. Your work is provocative, fantastic, and hauntingly beautiful! I'm going to share your site with my husband who also creates photomontage. Your digital collages are just our cup of tea (or, in my husband's case, coffee It sounds like you're a noir fan, too, Maltese Falcons and all! Carol |
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- Posted by Kippy-the-Hippy 10 Sunset 24 (My Page) on Thu, Jul 4, 13 at 3:05
| Thank you for the video Can I just say how happy I was to wake up to a thick cold wet blanket of fog this morning!!! Mid day I had to loose the sweater, but it is back now. One thing the video can't really share is just like the fog sliding through the hills and bridge, it slides right through your clothing and is so cold. It is why "layers" in CA does not always refer to Photoshop. |
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- Posted by mendocino_rose z8 N CA. (My Page) on Thu, Jul 4, 13 at 9:30
| I love the fog. It appears here after a hot spell to save us and the garden. It can come rolling in like a tide and settle in the valley below. Sometimes it sits on the hills ten miles away and a fresh wind blows off it. |
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- Posted by floridarosez9 10 (My Page) on Thu, Jul 4, 13 at 12:13
| We have fog here, but there's nothing cooling about it. Sometimes we have it for days on end, and it doesn't burn off until noon. Those are blackspot days. Some days it's so thick it's dangerous to drive your car. It's not particularly lovely, either |
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- Posted by jaspermplants 9 az (My Page) on Thu, Jul 4, 13 at 12:19
| I lived in Sonoma County (outside Sebastopol) years ago and loved loved loved the fog that would roll in off the ocean on hot summer afternoons. I miss living in that lovely area of the country. Unfortunately it has gotten so expensive there.. That area is my favorite part of the country. I also love San Francisco fog although it does get a little chilly (chilly sounds good right now, living in horrible 110+ heat). |
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- Posted by Kippy-the-Hippy 10 Sunset 24 (My Page) on Thu, Jul 4, 13 at 12:40
| The power of fog Here it is 63 degrees at 9:40am Bakersfield, inland aways-the heat sucks the fog toward it, 96 degrees. I should add, a good foggy day is wonderful for getting nicely saturated photos of your roses. |
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| Beautiful video. I used to live in San Francisco and loved seeing the fog roll in. I think we had fog in Palos Verdes sometimes too, south of LA. I was happier in Oakland where it was sunnier and warmer, but San Francisco is beautiful in many areas. |
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| Diane, thank you for posting that video. It is wonderful. |
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| I'll never think of fog in quite the same way after watching this video. Very powerful and beautiful. When we have it, 20 miles inland, I'm so grateful. Ingrid |
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| Thanks Diane -- As much as I love fog, I've never seen it depicted quite so beautifully. And I DO love my fog. Time was, I wore Uggs all through the summer, here -- but that's changing, and I don't like it one bit. Like Kippy, I was happy yesterday to see the fog bank return. The morning was wonderfully chilly, and the coastal hills are a dim lavender blur. The roses may not always like it, but I sure do. Jeri |
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| I'm so glad that you all like the video. It really is a wonderful interpretation of a beloved phenomenon of our bay area. Pamela, I can imagine how beautiful it must be looking out at the fog down the valley, sitting on your deck. Ingrid, I wouldn't have thought your home was in the fog zone. Glad you sometimes get it. michaelg, happily Montara mountain is protected and can't have anything built on it. But shrimp scampi is available nearby. yes Kippy, foggy days are the best for photography! Carol (PortlandMysteryRose), thank you so much for the kind words about my work. It sounds like Miles and I need to meet you and your husband. We'd have a lot to talk about. Speaking of Surrealism, Miles and I like to think that we were Surrealists in Paris together in the 1920s. Very big noir fan. We have a noir film festival in SF every year and I did 2 posters for them in 2012. One for Dashiell Hammett films and one for Vera Casparay films, Laura and Bedelia. Diane |
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| What an amazing video! Thank you. |
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| Hi lori elf, so glad you liked it. Diane |
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| Never having lived anywhere coastal in my life, the concept of 'fog' was usually the horrible pea-soup versions of my industrial northern childhood - I think you would call it smog. Nonetheless, fog is a phenomenon in our woodlands (we are actually below sea-level) and for the first few times, I was amazed and bewildered by this white rolling haze drifting around the water meadows and dissolving the lower levels of the poplars in a misty blur (much like my permanently fogged brain). The somnolent cows which use the grazing marsh throughout the summer mutated into vague hazy lumbering shapes - only the continual lowing moans gave the game away since they seem to stay motionless for many hours (also rather like myself). Could have been mistaken for some mysterious fen standing stones. Have had to refrain from declaiming stanzas from the Ancient Mariner (in a suitably deep mournful voiceover) but I rather enjoy wafting around in an old waxed trenchcoat or pretending to be in a Henry James ghost story (although I look nothing like Deborah Kerr). A very evocative little film, Fogs, and much appreciated here in the true fenland (where, apparently seafogs roll inland for days at a time) |
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| campanula, I will now picture you walking along the fens with Sherlock Holmes and Dr. Watson as your companions. British fog = Holmes in my brain. Or Lord Peter Wimsey in the Nine Tailors when he spent time in fen country. Our fog (also known as the "marine layer") tends to be of higher elevation. Rarely on the ground at sea level but when it does sink it's known as tule fog. See the link below for more information than you probably want about fog and tule fog. Diane |
Here is a link that might be useful: Why San Francisco has fog
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| I live about an hour south of San Francisco, in the redwoods. I drive over the coastal mountains (hills, really!) on my way in to work and usually drive up and through the morning fog layer, so I leave home using headlights and then need my sunglasses. It's a beautiful drive in the morning, and I can look out over Monterey Bay from one of the lookouts on the road. |
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| I have very fond memories of living on Lombard Street in San Francisco in the 60's, lying in bed at night and hearing the fog horns on the bay. Eery, but vaguely comforting at the same time... |
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- Posted by debra_boston Zone 5 - Boston (My Page) on Fri, Sep 6, 13 at 18:41
| Dear Diane, (Fogrose) I used to live in Pacifica and still own a rental property there. I did a search on "Pacifica" and your name came up. I'll be visiting 9-8 thru 9-12. Would love to see your garden, as I'll be planting and sprucing up my house in Pacifica. I'll send you my street address if you're interested in seeing my garden. Let me know, ok? I loved the video "Adrift" and posted it on my FB page! I also took a quick look at your webpage since you mentioned that you you are an artist -- you are supremely talented! As regards the Maltese Falcon, have you ever eaten at John's Grill in S.F.? The upper floor is a partial museum devoted to Dashiel Hammet, who used to eat there and write also. I'll be planting some moonflowers and other stuff and wouldn't mind some advice from a fellow gardener. Thanks for posting. --Debra |
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- Posted by organic_tosca 9/Sunset 14 (My Page) on Sun, Sep 8, 13 at 15:10
| Hi, Diane! Just thought I'd say hello - I so much enjoyed meeting you and your DH at the Redoute talk. So much in common! Laura |
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- Posted by zeffyrose_pa6b7 6b7 (My Page) on Sun, Sep 8, 13 at 21:47
| I'm so sad---for some reason my internet explorer will not permit me to see the video------My daughter lived in SF back in the 80's and I loved visiting her-----beautiful area. Florence |
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- Posted by melissa_thefarm NItaly (My Page) on Mon, Sep 9, 13 at 1:38
| I saw part of the film and am letting it buffer as I write this. It is a beautiful piece. We have fog on the move sometimes here too. The Po Plain and adjoining low-lying valleys are famous (notorious) for tenacious blank enduring fogs in the winter. We lie 600' higher than our town in its cooler, moister river bottom, and not infrequently will see fog down there while we sit up in the sun (this is some compensation for how we bake on our hillside in the summer). Sometimes the warmer drier air up here will pull the fog up and it will raft in, ghostly and majestic, a beautiful sight. |
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- Posted by kittymoonbeam 10 (My Page) on Mon, Sep 9, 13 at 2:11
| Beautiful Fog. The climate of San Francisco is so beautiful and special. One of the blessed places. Ferns and Fuchsias and all sorts of delights out in the open growing to large sizes. But most of all, the coastal redwood forests that depend on the fog to keep them hydrated. I love the coast redwoods. There is a whole other world up in the canopy layer of those ancient forests with special plants and animals living in a cool foggy paradise. The bottom layer is pretty special too. |
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| Glad people are still enjoying the film. Laura, it was great meeting you and I hope we can get together again. Debra, I'd love to say hello but am hard at work on getting pieces made for an upcoming art exhibit and my garden is a mess. Be glad to stop by for a brief visit at your place. Yes I've been to John's Grill and was at an anniversary party for Hammett upstairs. Send me an email fenster at sfsu dot edu. Diane |
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