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Posted by
alameda 8 - East Texas (
My Page) on
Tue, Jul 1, 14 at 21:11
I just picked up an order of band roses that had been delivered to the post office on May 27. They did not send me a notice until last Friday - June 27! They sat in that post office for a month! 2 look dead, the others lost all leaves but have green canes. They were still wet/a bit molded. All leaves were dead and dried up. Even though the canes are partially green, they look like they are on their last legs. Is there any hope for these poor bands? I watered them, put in shade, have not repotted them......not sure what to do. Would appreciate any advice on caring for these poor roses. I plan to take the box and the delivery notice and speak to the postmaster tomorrow. Don't know if they are insured or not - plan to find out. I talked to a friend who works at the desk - I asked her - what in the world is going around here?? She said - you don't want to know. They lost a letter that I needed to sign for......it was in my name, they just couldn't locate it until they were finally made to search for it.......I am really put out. Oh, and 2 checks for daylilies sent last October have still not been found.......Not worried about all that - just hoping I can revive these roses. Thanks for any help!
Judith |
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| I have no advice, but great sympathy. And, if it were me, I sure would try to revive the ones that are still green. But, GEEZE . . . If it makes you feel any better, we ordered $400. worth of printer toner via Amazon Prime. THEY had UPS (which is dependable) give it to the locaL USPS for delivery. THEY set the package on top of our rural mail box, a block away, and left it there. By God's grace, no one stole it. |
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| I got some rooted cuttings from Dan sent from some 70 miles away, it took our carrier 2 tries and 2 weeks to get them to me. One was pretty much doa, one lasted a couple of weeks before giving up but the other two made it. I have to laugh when they want to cut service days and yet if you pay enough, they show up on Sunday. |
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| That's awful and I really don't have any advice except what you are already goin to do by going to the post master. Sounds like your local post office has some major issues that need addressed. I'm glad to see a post from you, I enjoy your advice on roses and hearing about your own roses. Good luck and I hope you get this resolved. |
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| What I actually meant in the way of advice - sorry, didn't make myself clear - is what to do about the rose bands. I probably will get nothing but a "sorry about that" from the stupid PO. In my area, all our mail now goes to a huge holding facility in north Houston. It gets rerouted from there. They call this saving money. I mail something to my neighbor - it goes to Houston and back. I have gotten rose bands and, not having time at that particular moment to repot them, left them in partial shade in the little band pots they came in. I actually repotted some I got a month ago this week - I noticed they were just full of roots - so I am thinking about leaving these bands in the little pots they came in - put them in a bit of morning sun, protection from the heat we are now starting to get, watch their moisture carefully and just let them grow out in the pots. Maybe spray them with a little fish emulsion?? I am afraid that repotting them now, with the stress they have been through already, would send them over the edge. Or....do you all think I would be better off repotting them now in 1 gallon pots to let them start growing? I have never had this situation before, and these roses cant be replaced, so I really want to do everything possible to try to save the ones still living. Really appreciate any thoughts on this! As for the PO......I could care less if they don't do Saturdays - they don't do the work during the week, what difference would one more day make for them to foul up?? Luckily, I know the girl in the postmaster's office I need to see - so maybe she can do something to help.......
Judith |
RE: Would Appreciate Advice - PO didnt deliver roses for a month!
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| If it were me I, would to re-pot them into 1 gallons asap, any time I have kept a rose in a band size pot, even for a few days before transplant, it either gets too dried out without warning & suffers, or I accidentally over-water it trying to prevent drying out, and since there is barely any soil the roots drown and all the leaves start falling off. I don't think transplanting it would shock it too badly, since it is so small, just be gentle with the root ball. It just seems like having a larger amount of soil could help you to give the rose a more stable set of conditions to recover in, as keeping it appropriately fed & watered will be easier in a larger pot with better soil & drainage. Good luck! I am so sorry to hear about your predicament, I would be fighting the post office/rose company tooth and nail about this, this is just ridiculous. Jessica |
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| I would put them in a larger pot, not too big. I bought some bands a few weeks ago.. I did leave them in the small band pots for a few days. Well when I took out the rootball to replant it, the soil was too hot for me to touch! Those little black pots heat up fast. As soon as I put the bands in the larger pots, they started to look better. Now a few weeks later, they are all leafed out with new growth and some buds. |
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I'm sorry this happened. Very frustrating. I think the previous suggestions are good. I have let my bands sit in saucers of water for a few hours hoping to rehydrate little roots. Pot them up in 1g and keep them moist and in the shade. Give them dilute fish emulsion after a few days.
It's not your fault. If they don't thrive you should be provided replacements.
Do let the vendor know too. And perhaps request notification of shipping for future purposes.
I received a large box of roses that had literally been run over by a truck. Canes broken, soil gone, box 80 percent open. Vendor replaced them.
Susan |
RE: Would Appreciate Advice - PO didnt deliver roses for a month!
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You HAVE to get to know your delivery guy for all your carriers.
Here in the country, they are good. In New Orleans, there was disaster after disaster. All I could do was keep track of what was expected and aggressively get replacements when something had been more than four days later than it should have been delivered.. |
RE: Would Appreciate Advice - PO didnt deliver roses for a month!
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| My story like this is that the substitute mail carrier left a $100 rose order outside our box as it was too big on a lonely country road. They were stolen. I complained to the supervisor and filed a form insisting that be be recompensed. Two days later I got a "Your bussiness is very important to us but too bad" letter. The rose nursery I was dealing with kindly replaced all plants for the price of postage. I called to ask if they had insurance. They didn't but replaced the roses out of kindness. |
RE: Would Appreciate Advice - PO didnt deliver roses for a month!
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| mendocino_rose, If the rose company was nice enough to replace your plants let's give them some free advertisement: What is their name and address?? Everyone here on this forum should order from them!!! |
RE: Would Appreciate Advice - PO didnt deliver roses for a month!
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| These roses, as they always have from this company, were delivered to my PO box at the post office. I check my mail frequently - there was NO delivery slip left in my box until last Friday - I guess the morons finally realized there was a package that said Live Plants on it and thought well duh, guess we better put a slip in the box since its been a month.......NO excuse for this - all they had to do was put a slip in my box. I am going up there today with the box, the slip, a dead rose and low expectations. The company is now out of business and said all roses have been sold - don't know if they can replace them tho I am sure they would if they could. Will just have to see. When repotting my roses usually, I have a great blend of a soil mix I get by the pickup truck load - aged mushroom compost/sand/bark fines. I usually mix that with Miracle Gro rose soil. I am sure the roots on these poor bands are stressed and now growing well. Wonder if I should use another kind of mix for them or add some perlite? Will report on what the PO has to say.....I am at least going to find out who I have to write to and complain about this post office to someone - or maybe even the main postal service. Nothing will be done of course but it will make me feel better to at least have a say and call them on it. Oh, and am going to file a missing mail report on 2 lost checks for daylilies that never arrived last fall. You have to wait 3 months before you can do that. And they think they deserve to raise the price on stamps??? Nowdays, if you mail something, you never know if it will arrive. You don't hear em bragging anymore that mail will be delivered through rain, sleet, snow..........
Judith |
RE: Would Appreciate Advice - PO didnt deliver roses for a month!
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| I totally understand your frustration of having the mail routed to Houston. I don't have any experience in rose bands but it sounds like everyone else has given you some good advice and I'm sure you have done what you can to save the poor things. I wonder if you call or email the nursery you ordered from and see if they happen to have anything left. The fact you may not able to replace them due to the PO not doing there job correctly is a travesty and they should be ashamed. Good luck and I hope some I the rose babies make it! |
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- Posted by seil z6b MI (My Page) on
Wed, Jul 2, 14 at 13:10
| I'd re-pot to one gallon pots and keep them well watered and shady. Maybe even pile soil up the cane like you would to start a bare root or give them a little tent to keep the humidity up around them. If the canes are still green then hydration is going to be the key to keeping them alive. |
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- Posted by hoovb z9 Southern CA (My Page) on
Wed, Jul 2, 14 at 14:48
| I thought ALL USPS packages had a $50 or $100 insurance on them. Something you might check--at least you could get some money back. |
RE: Would Appreciate Advice - PO didnt deliver roses for a month!
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| When I order almost anything, I track it on the internet. Even if it comes through the post office, I seem to be able to follow it, and expect its delivery. I cannot give you better advice than what you received about the rose care, but I hope in the future, you can track the packages, and know when to alert the PO if they do not come. Tulsa is a very small town, compared to Houston, and my small suburb is even smaller. I am willing to bet you already do track items, and have whatever we have here. Someone just messed you up. I am sorry this happened to you. Sammy |
RE: Would Appreciate Advice - PO didnt deliver roses for a month!
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Spoke with a very nice man at the PO yesterday - showed him the box, my credit card showing how much I spent on the roses and one of the dead roses. He is going to speak with his supervisor and call me back. He said there was no tracking number on the box - for whatever problem that might be, the roses were at the post office when they should have been, the PO just didn't notify me until Friday, so they cant wiggle out of responsibility due to no tracking number! Hopefully, they will do something - they took the vendor's name also. Probably just giving me lip service and will do nothing, but I tried. Now....hopefully I can carefully repot these babies and maybe they will make it.
I wouldn't worry so much if they could be replaced.......will take with the vendor and see if replacements might be possible.......
Judith |
RE: Would Appreciate Advice - PO didnt deliver roses for a month!
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| Nobody understands about replacing a rose. There is a huge difference between planting a rose a month ago, and planting a rose in a few weeks if you can get it. You are actually being stalled a year. Even if they return the money you spent, you lose in the end. If the vendor is near to you, perhaps you could get an older rose???? Planting might be more difficult with an older rose, and its chance of survival could be less. I am just venting with you. I hope you get some compensation. Sammy |
RE: Would Appreciate Advice - PO didnt deliver roses for a month!
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| I am so sorry, especially if that was a last of its kind Vintage Roses order. The lack of a tracking number is probably a postal issue as well. I would be so upset, I know how I felt about the 2 week delay for 70 miles. |
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| I had a rose knocked out of the soil and dried free swimming in the box. It lived but you have to be cautious and not let it rot while you try and revive it. I hope your rose makes it. I'd try half sand half premium potting mix in bright shade in a pot just a little bigger than the band pot. Don't feed until new leaves are well underway. |
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| If ya'll hadn't guessed by now, the vendor is Vintage Gardens. NO fault of theirs whatsoever - mailed on time, packed well, their usual marvelous service. I got a lovely, lovely email from Gregg.....I cant believe how busy he is and still had time to respond. There is a possibility he can replace in the fall - and I told him I would be glad to repay as this wasn't his fault - just want the roses! Whatever compensation I get from the PO I will give to him. The guy, David, who took my complaint said he understood why I was upset, said his mother is a plant addict too.....so hopefully I wont just be getting lip service. But its the government, after all! I am going to go ahead and repot these babies that are still green and pray they wont go into a tailspin and die. We got cooler weather and some lovely rain this evening - maybe the rain will help revive them whereas the local water might not. And the coolness! Think I will take before photos.......these will truly be miracle roses. Thanks for all the comments and words of advice. Am really worried about disturbing these roses, but thinking that the soil might be sour and would do the roots in makes me want to get them in some better soil right away. Have a great 4th of July everyone!
Judith |
RE: Would Appreciate Advice - PO didnt deliver roses for a month!
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| Judith, were they sent Priority? $50 insurance automatically comes with Priority shipping. If they received them and didn't either deliver them or notify you they were there, surely they OWE you the replacement value up to $50? I'd go to the post office with all the documentation and begin asking very uncomfortable questions. It's disheartening to hear it happened. I'm sorry. I've shipped all around the country and over seas using Priority and they have yet to foul up an order. Occasionally, instead of arriving in two days, it has taken three, but they've always gotten there within their time claims and always in great shape. I have even had Priority Mail get a box of bud wood to The Netherlands over the Fourth of July week in 48 hours! No kidding. 48 hours from dropping it at the Encino Post Office until receipt in The Netherlands. Not "Express", "Priority"! Someone fouled up. I'd bet they owe you compensation for it and I would push for it. Good luck. Kim |
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Update - I am thrilled to report that out of the 8 roses, with 2 totally dead and 1 hanging by a thread, that 4 out of the living 5 are putting out new growth!! I decided to leave them as is in their bands and not disturb and see if they would start growing, with moisture and morning sun. What troopers! I plan to let them leaf out then transplant - hoping once they are growing, they will thrive in their new pots. Maybe I can get the 3 replaced, as well as compensation from the PO - from whom I have heard nothing. Guess I will have to go talk to them again......but whatever, at least part of my roses is surviving! Would not have believed it - one month in that box!
Judith |
RE: Would Appreciate Advice - PO didnt deliver roses for a month!
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| I once mailed a package EMS to Australia and it was lost in a Tokyo sorting center for 2 weeks. Also the only time I have ever been able to have my shipping costs refunded. (The package was eventually found and delivered, but what a hassle). Some types of priority mail do have money back guarantees...not sure if you got the right type for that, but it's worth bringing up next time you talk to your postmaster (but I know there's only a short time to apply for it too). I had squirrels decimate one of my Vintage rarities last week...it's gut-wrenching when they're irreplaceable. Cheers!
~Anika |
RE: Would Appreciate Advice - PO didnt deliver roses for a month!
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| Judith that is awesome news that you have some that survived! That's good it wasn't a total loss, i know you must be happy about that. |
RE: Would Appreciate Advice - PO didnt deliver roses for a month!
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| Long ago I received a large mangled plant package that had been sent by rail. Eventually, after negotiations, two men in suits arrived in a car to inspect the package. It felt like I was being checked out by the FBI. To their credit they did pay up. Cath |
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