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| If someone had wished to fill in a garden quickly O.G.R.s, which roses would you suggest? My favorite class of rose is Tea, a group of slowly growing roses when grown on their own roots, but there are exceptions; Other faster growing O.G.R.s: Snail award for slowest growth: 'Le Pactole' but I still cherish it. If I were starting over I would buy as many Old Garden Teas on rootstock as I could find, alas they are hard to find. Thanks for all your help.
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| Nothing much really grows fast here, but FWIW . . . That 'Alice Hamilton' we got from Vintage, right at the very end is already almost 4 ft. tall. And blooming, while it's growing. (It's supposed to be a Tea, but this looks like a China to me.) I have a suspicion that "N 92 Nanjing" is going to do the same thing. (It also looks like a China.) FWIW. |
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- Posted by jaspermplants 9az (My Page) on Sat, Jul 5, 14 at 23:18
| Mrs BR Cant and Mons Tillier are by far the healthiest growers for me. Won Fang Yon I planted this past fall and is quite healthy and growing quickly. Of course, it is related to Mons Tillier so, no wonder! |
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| Among non-Teas, Chinas and Noisettes are pretty speedy for me and I have real winters. One of my favorite Noisettes is Jeanne d'Arc (from RU, but VG sold it as St. Leonards). She doesn't get too big and is constantly blooming, even those years when the Jap Beets are eating her alive. And another vote for Mons Tiller. Also, Dr. Grill was fast for me. |
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| Marie Van Houtte is a tea, and since arriving bareroot last January, she has shot up -- outgrew a 4' trellis and is now working on a 6' one. I can't seem to get good shots of the bush, but here is one of her exquisite blooms, from May. The first flush was white/cream, then there were some with pink edges as in the photo; now with summer heat she's more and more allover pink. I love roses that get darker in the heat, instead of lighter! I found her in the Rose Encyclopedia where she had a stellar writeup. Now I want more teas since they seem to love this climate ... and by the way, if anyone knows where I can get her mate, Louis Van Houtte (dark crimson), please let me know! Thanks, Sylvia Sylvia |
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| The rose that has grown fastest for me as a band is, hands down, Mlle. De Sombreuil. I bought her last autumn and she's at least three feet tall but, best of all, even in the heat now is covered with buds and a few open blooms. Mrs. B.R. Cant has not been at all fast for me and doesn't have enough leaves to protect it from sunburn. Le Vesuve and Rosette Delizy have been reasonably fast and bloom well for me. Ingrid |
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- Posted by ArbutusOmnedo 10/24 (My Page) on Sun, Jul 6, 14 at 23:34
| Sylvia - I'm not sure if it's in stock at the moment, but I know that Rogue Valley carries Louis Van Houtte. Jay |
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| Alba semi- plena - 6' feet first year :-) |
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| Thanks Jay - RVR does indeed carry LVH and yes, they are out of stock. Is it November yet?? Sylvia |
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| Thanks all, I'll buy one if I can find one, or take cuttings from my neighbors Marie Van Houtte, and a Dr. Grill if I can find one. I've not seen 'Alice Hamilton', I'l look for photos on the Internet, but I love all the China-Teas, I've been thinking of getting a Le Vesuve' it is one of my favorite roses, all I need is a place to put it, I've just marked out a 8'X 8' spot for an 'Alliance Franco-Russo' I've never had much of a pot ghetto until this year after going to the Old Rose Celebration, and also rooting c. a dozen roses that are now blooming in the Maiden bed. I have many small rosebushes, but what I desire is a lush and full garden like a mini-Sacramento Cemetery garden with rosebushes cascading, , and rambling in great profusion. I really appreciate all your answers. |
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- Posted by poorbutroserich Nashville 7a (My Page) on Mon, Jul 7, 14 at 16:36
| Lux, I agree re: Alice Hamilton. She really SHOT out of the gate. I remember my unusually vigorous bands…and the unusually slothful bands. I received a band last fall of "Milkmaid" it's a Clark noisette. It only bloomed this spring but it now has canes of close to 8'! HMF says it is a once bloomer…Gorgeous buttery cream buds and blooms. Fields of the Wood is a super vigorous deep crimson climber. It has really grown. Marie d'Orleans is a beautiful fast growing tea for me. Ramblers are exceptionally vigorous and offer that cascading lushess you are looking for. My Cornelia and Francesca have taken off too. I guess I haven't suggested many teas because most don't grow too quickly for me. They do that zig zag growth thing… Mutabalis is a fast grower! Safrano grew quickly for me and might be better for you in your cooler temps. She blows and fades very quickly in the heat but is gorgeous. Madame Alfred Carriere is super fast. Please pardon my rambling, I'm just pouring out thoughts…. K & M roses does a few OGRs on fortuniana which really adds vigor. I have Francis Dubreuil, Reve D'Or, Celine Forestier, Monsieur Tillier and Felicia on fortuniana…. It's not an OGR but a very pretty, vigorous rambler that hasn't stopped blooming since May: Hermann Schmidt. To me it has an old fashioned look. HMF has it as a large flowered climber but it's not. Smaller clusters. Nice fragrance too. And healthy as a horse here. Susan |
Here is a link that might be useful: Hermann Schmidt on hmf
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