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Gloire de Dijon from High Country Roses-for Josh

Posted by fogrose zone 10/sunset 17 (My Page) on
Sat, Aug 23, 14 at 15:49

Hi Josh and everyone,

I bought an own root GdeD from High Country Roses in summer 2013 during their sale. I've read about the decline of GdeD over the years but wanted to take a chance since I knew I'd have a long wait for Burlington to produce a budded version and that Josh was first on the list as he bought another plant to send to Burling to use for budding.

I am happy to report that my own root plant is still growing happily in a 3 gallon pot in part shade and is now in it's third flush of bloom since spring which is amazing given my conditions. The canes are about three feet high and the flowers are very beautiful.

Fingers crossed for continued success.

Diane


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RE: Gloire de Dijon from High Country Roses-for Josh

Even if the heads-up was meant for Josh, this question of own-root 'Gloire de Dijon' has been on my mind, so I'm glad to hear about your success. Am hoping to obtain a GdD at some point, and am not interested wasting time/money/effort on a weak clone.

Thanks,
Virginia


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RE: Gloire de Dijon from High Country Roses-for Josh

  • Posted by fogrose zone 10/sunset 17 (My Page) on
    Sat, Aug 23, 14 at 18:36

Hi Virginia,

I wanted everyone to know about it as we had a thread about GdeD last year and people asked that I post an update.

I'd certainly give the High Country clone a try but patience is required. Worth it IMHO because the flowers are a heartbreakers. I may even get another one.

Diane


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RE: Gloire de Dijon from High Country Roses-for Josh

Diane, I read that thread with great interest, and was eventually going to ask about the current situation in terms of own-root worthiness. I've especially been wondering about Roses Unlimited's clone of GdD, since they are fairly local to me.

I'm not planning to buy a GdD just yet, but I know that's a rose I will try at some point. Some roses just call to us, and that one definitely has my number.

Thanks for the update,
Virginia


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RE: Gloire de Dijon from High Country Roses-for Josh

  • Posted by fogrose zone 10/sunset 17 (My Page) on
    Sat, Aug 23, 14 at 20:40

Hi again Virginia,

You wrote "Some roses just call to us, and that one definitely has my number."

You are so right. But I had no idea how much GdeD was calling to me until it started blooming here and I could touch it and get a whiff of it's perfume.

It was always one of those mythical roses I dreamed about. Here's what Paul Barden (Trospero) says about it.

"Gloire de Dijon is my favourite rose of all. When asked if I could have but one rose, I tell people that this would be the one! It was the favourite of Rev. Dean Hole, the first president of the National Rose Society."

And Graham Stuart Thomas chimes in with...
"Gloire de Dijon Jacotot (France) 1853... the result of crossing a vigorous Tea Rose with 'Souvenir de la Malmaison'... Description... It is the most popular and satisfactory of all old climbing roses... deep buff-yellow flowers suffused in warm weather with pink and apricot... Dean Hole, in A Book about Roses (1870), ranked it as his favourite and most successful climbing rose..."

Diane


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RE: Gloire de Dijon from High Country Roses-for Josh

That's great news! I had been hoping Josh would have an update on his grafted plant, but an own root plant is much easier to come by. GdD really is one of the roses that calls to lovers of OGRs. I would love to grow it, but almost every post I had seen mentioning GdD was less than positive. You've provided a flicker of hope even if most Tea-Noisettes besides Lamarque and Reve d'Or seem to have poor reputations in Coastal So Cal.

Jay


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RE: Gloire de Dijon from High Country Roses-for Josh

Jay, Mary Washington was clean as a whistle in Pacific Palisades, two blocks from the Pacific. Kim

Here is a link that might be useful: Mary Washington


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RE: Gloire de Dijon from High Country Roses-for Josh

Kim, it's my understanding that the cluster blooming Noisettes do well here on the whole, but the larger flowered Tea-Noisettes don't. Unfortunately, I'm much more drawn to the likes of Elie Beauvillain, GdD, and Jaune Desprez than the Mary Washington types, but I recently purchased a Narrow Water for my mom who is about a mile and a quarter from the beach. I think it has a good chance of being a great rose for her.

Jay

This post was edited by ArbutusOmnedo on Tue, Aug 26, 14 at 13:28


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RE: Gloire de Dijon from High Country Roses-for Josh

  • Posted by fogrose zone 10/sunset 17 (My Page) on
    Wed, Aug 27, 14 at 2:28

Elie Beauvillain is happy here on my northern coast. Very vigorous. I'd give her a try.

Narrow Water is great here. Blooms in the shade and climbs at least 20 feet to get to the sun. No disease.

Diane


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RE: Gloire de Dijon from High Country Roses-for Josh

Jay, I'm with you. I far prefer the larger flowered Tea-Noisettes to the smaller cluster flowered ones. Fortunately I live in a climate where both can do well unless they are subject to powdery mildew. That seems to inflict some varieties of each style.

Rosefolly


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RE: Gloire de Dijon from High Country Roses-for Josh

I do love the Tea Noisettes -- Sadly, they're not happy in my conditions.

The cluster-flowering Noisettes are happy as CLAMS here, and over time, I've learned to love most the roses that want to grow for me.

This is "Roseville Noisette," which is something of a dwarf. It flourishes in two huge pots in front of our house, where I can smell it without even stretching or bending. :-)


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RE: Gloire de Dijon from High Country Roses-for Josh

Jeri,

Here's a picture that you posted of one of your baby Roseville's going into it's huge pot. What does it look like today? How big has it gotten?

Just curious.


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RE: Gloire de Dijon from High Country Roses-for Josh

Roseville is one I'll definitely consider next year from Burling, but I went ahead and got a Gloire de Dijon from High Country during their current sale. I can't say I wasn't inspired by your success, Diane. I really, REALLY want this one to succeed here. A heart-stopper to be sure. I have an empty 2 gallon and 15 gallon container to cycle it through before planting if I notice it does very well in a container while it's developing.

I have high hopes even if many Tea-Noisettes don't like it here. I hope yours continues to prosper!

Jay


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RE: Gloire de Dijon from High Country Roses-for Josh

Belle, I'll post a pix tomorrow of my Rosevilles. Both are happy and healthy, and blooming their hearts out. One is more than 3 ft. Tall. The other shorter. But both look great.

Jeri


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RE: Gloire de Dijon from High Country Roses-for Josh

  • Posted by fogrose zone 10/sunset 17 (My Page) on
    Sat, Sep 6, 14 at 19:25

Jay, I went ahead and just bought a 2nd GdeD from High Country yesterday during their sale. I am so smitten with this rose and how well it's doing here and hope it does the same for you. It's been said by others and now I understand why people have said if they could only have one rose it would be GdeD.

Diane


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RE: Gloire de Dijon from High Country Roses-for Josh

Hi Jeri,

I saw the ones you posted to HelpMeFind. They've come a long way, and they do look great.


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