But just how hot does Young Lycidas like it? I noticed you're in Texas and it does get hot and in some places humid. Where in your garden have you placed this beauty and my computer is showing a deep pink, not purple rose.

I've been on the fence regarding this one, and put it on, take it off the list. I like the way it looks whether it is purple or deep pink but that would definitely factor in to where I would plant it.

I know there comes a time to just get off the fence and make the purchase. But given my summers, which is the only climate related problem I cannot do much about, I don't want to waste time, money, or just put a rose somewhere it is doomed to fail.

To sum it best, Young Lycidas is a bright raspberry pink but not as dark as Mme Isaac Pereire. Lycidas appears to have 2 shades of pink.

I bought Young Lycidas as a bareroot in January 2013 from
David Austin.

My climate is nearly as hot but not arid like your
desert heat. The humidity is at times unbearable. It drains
your energy.

Surprisingly, SDLM does not ball up - humidity.

Thank you. I too am very "color sensitive/aware". I know that colors can change due to climate and soil. You are the second person who has chimed in with a similar color description for this rose, and while individually our growing conditions are not exactly the same; collectively between the two descriptions I have received, they are; except for soil, which I can work with. I can put it back on my winter list; in ink:)

Lovely photos!

Lynn

Ingrid

I have only seen Golden Celebration, so there in is the problem for me visualizing this combo, as images and opinions regarding the color of the other two vary so much.

Lynn

People confuse purple with pink. Purple is purple not violet, not mauve. Although those shades are in the purple family.
In cooler climates, it is possible it is another shade.

I ordered this rose sight unseen, only saw Google images and
David Austin roses catalog. After waiting a few months to get my first bud ------it's what I envisioned, very pretty!!!

A rose that is mauve for all purposes is: Heirloom

Since you live in a hot climate, I think you would have a similar shade of pink. It's not bubblegum nor strawberry milk pink. It is more vivid. Exactly what pinks do you like?

Ingrid

If we ordered it as a bareroot is it ownroot?

I have this thing that I prefer own root roses.
I can't tell the difference.

I had planned to purchase Young Lycidas and Harlow Carr from David Austin. They would be delivered in January bare root. I have read mixed reviews regarding own root versus bare root, and I will have grafted and own root both in my garden, but can see the advantages of and prefer own root.

I too wonder what Ingrid has .

mauvegirl, bareroot means that a rose has been taken out of the ground,, pruned, the leaves taken off and the soil washed off before shipping. It can be either grafted or own-root, but traditionally they have been grafted roses. Own-root means that the rose was not grafted but rather grown from a cutting taking from a mature rose or budded from it, and grown on until it's big enough to ship in a small pot or sometimes a 1-gallon pot.

Ingrid

@ Mauvegirl

I notice that your YL and mine are slightly different in the colors of flowers and leaves--or am I mistaking? Also yours is growing upright: he isn't a floppy mess with weak stems! And oh--the canes look different, yours appear smooth, without thorns and bloom (that frosty breath you find on a blueberry).

Very beautiful.

I didn't know if our January bareroots were own root or not.
Or does that only apply to ordering their list of container roses
throughout the year?

I'm beginning to get the idea that YL is inclined to be a straggly bush from seeing your pictures and prickles' comment. Mine also doesn't look exactly compact, and I'm beginning to think the space I put it in is going to be too small. Oh well, it wouldn't be the first time.....

Ingrid

If you can wait a bit, Belinda's Dream is covered in buds and I can cut of bouquet of YL and BD and you can see what you think for yourself.

My Climbing SdlM is taking OFF!! Seems like every day tha cane can grown a few more inches and is almost up to the top of the arch I made for her. Funny how the roses seem to take turns being a growth star.

Thank you:) I can definitely wait. I will not be receiving the Young
Lycidas until January. It can only impact what I place to the right of Golden Celebration which will likely be a low growing white rose. I really like Marie Pavie or a polyantha for the space if Y.L. Is placed next to the Belinda's Dream, I just am unsure as to how well either of those white roses will handle the heat. I have two Excellenz Von Schubert bands that some describe as a polyantha, and I already am prepared to take extra precautions or really prepare for them (soil/ sunlight / wind).

Lynn

The new houses here are sold with sod in the front yard. As for the backyards, some HOAs give you 30 days to plant grass.

Ingrid, I have a better understanding of our David Austin bareroot. The only little tiny question that lingers:
Are all bareroots grafted? OR is it just David Austin?

The restriction of grass in the front yards only began with new developments around 2004. Homes in neighborhoods prior to that date are grandfathered in with their lawns. My current home was built after the new law, so we have no lawn in the front yard, and placed a pool , hard scape (pavers) , a long raised bed, and regular beds in the backyard instead of lawn.

During my last visit to Ventuta County, CA I was surprised to see that some homeowners had removed all of their front lawn and created a cottage style garden there. I think the increasing drought conditions in the Southwest has been a catalyst for more people to rip up their lawns and create xeriscape and other "water smart" styled gardens.

Lynn

I am allergic to grass. Fortunately it isn't extreme, but it is for some people. I guess the HOAs in TX will tell them to go live someplace else or stay inside?

Btw, I didn't find out about the grass allergy for sure until I was about 33, but there were always mild symptoms; even when I was a child. What if the homeowner learns of the allergy after moving into their grass mandatory home?

I like HOA's in that they can maintain some standard (keeps people from parking an oil dripping jalopy in the font yard, or on the lawn, but anything well kept, maintained, that does not grow into the neighbor's yard or sidewalk, so be it. It creates diversity and chops up some of the cookie cutter look that is so prevalent in the burbs.

I have been residing in Las Vegas for over 13 years now. I can tell you that I have never seen an Austin or an OGR in a yard anywhere . One of our local nurseries sells about 4 potted up Austin's. I have never seen a bare root Austin at any nursery; and I have been to all of them within a 25 mike radius of my home; note it takes about a 30 minute drive down the 15 freeway to make it to a desert area and 45 minutes going south to get to the CA/NV state line, and it is all desert during those last 15 minutes or so. There's no nursery in that desert.

I know some people must grow OGR's and Austins, but the prevalence is closer to non existent. I am placing shrub roses, Austin's, OGR's, bourbons, in my FRONT YARD. I hope it goes well and starts a new trend.

I'll try to simplify this a little. There are three types of roses you'll see:

1. Own-root in small pots from on-line nurseries, i.e. NOT grafted.
2. Bareroot roses - grafted
3. Roses you'll see in nurseries or big-box stores in pots - grafted

Ingrid

On HGTV once again, I see lovely residences. I like the Spanish architecture or red tile roofs that many of your houses (and California) have.

In Houston, these are usually seen in custom made homes.
The style that dominates here is hardi-plank siding with partial brick, or all brick/all hardiplank. Not much stucco. Neutral colors on siding & garage. Our older communities include:
mid century modern (Bellaire/Braeswood/Meyerland) and bungalows (Houston Heights). Galveston, TX (beaches, Gulf of Mexico) is a 30 min. drive from my house has colorful cottages and once grand mansions. Think Key West....

I have SEVERE seasonal allergies. Every year it seems to
progress. I am not alone, so the Target pharmacist says.
I just have to ride it out (usually 3 weeks). Then it settles...
Until...the seasons change again! So it may be the grass,
pollen, ragweed, whatever. I have never bothered to be tested.

I think grass is overrated. We have our lawn mowed every 2
weeks (we had way overdue rain recently). So now the grass is growing leaps and bounds, definitely needs weekly!!!

But to its defense, a well manicured lawn with roses the day after rain is well...lush and verdant.

You would think that I could buy David Austin roses anywhere locally since the U.S. base is in Tyler, TX. But no, I order online just like anyone else. Besides 'Young Lycidas' (ordered from David Austin), I have 8 'The Prince' from Chamblees.

p.s. Young Lycidas is sprawling and upright in an elegant fashion.

I cannot recall the last time I even visited the strip; it has been years. Most locals go to the local casinos for movies, dining, bowling etc. I don't bowl and haven't seen a movie advertised that I could not wait for Netflix to have, so I only visit the local casinos for dining.

I moved to Las Vegas as my ex- husbands friend's family had moved here. We were living in coastal CA, Santa Monica, and spending about 2-3 million to move up to a larger home because baby made 3 was not plausible. We thought we were humoring him by traveling here to explore housing, as we had only visited the strip. Well, the joke was on us, it has been over 13 years now. The property brothers, one of them, lives here.

Most of the year is beautiful; clear blue skies, dryness instead of moisture and humidity, which feels better and takes the heat experience down a few degrees. But when it becomes hot, late may through August , it can take adjusting for people and roses. My garden will never look like a California garden, but it can have its own charm; and my absolute favorite, roses, are all around the city and thrive.

A few weeks ago, I too noticed that they provide an own-root option for "some" of their varieties. I had a Harlow Carr on my order for winter and it would have been an own-root plant. I have fallen for Bishop's Castle and decided to get another one of those instead. There is a slight difference in cost too; I believe....

Lynn