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| I love looking at big beautiful tea roses. My spaces are just too small. I was thinking about getting one but I don't think I have the room. Are there any I can enjoy in a pot until they get too large and then find a good home with someone with more space? I'm not considering trying to prune them down because I heard that they really dislike it. Besides, I think they should get that beautiful shape. The pictures of the old injured teas that get posted sometimes make me feel sadness. I want to have one but I know I won't have the space for it eventually. I do have some tea noisettes climbing away and getting bigger every day. I have a Devoniensis in a pot growing slowly and it gets a prime 10x10 space that I reserved for it ( now the home of my gallon sized bands from Vintage). Is there anything I can grow that I can enjoy in a pot for a while or is everything going to reach large size right away or be unhappy? I'm thinking maybe some so-so DAs could be removed for some wonderful tea but I need to see if it would like me first. |
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| Kitty, I have not grown Devoniensis, but ... I know it can get really big, but it looks like it will take decades to do that. Lady Hillingdon is one Tea that seems not to get really huge but is quite disease-free here at the coast. Jeri |
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| I agree, Devoniensis has a reputation for staying small for what seems like forever. I have mine in a very modest space, and I'm hoping it can stay there. I believe that teas can be pruned to some degree without looking as though they'd had a butch haircut. Not every tea needs a 10 x 10 foot space, and Devoniensis may not need it for decades. It could stay in a large pot for the rest of its life if it had to. As Jeri mentioned, Lady Hillingdon is on the smaller side, although I've seen pictures of a large specimen here and there. Westside Road Cream Tea doesn't get especially huge. Duchesse de Brabant is not a giant either and is gorgeous. I say if you want a tea get a tea. Just stay away from the known giants like Le Vesuve and Mrs. B.R. Cant and you'll be fine. In my experience pruning makes them put out lots of new growth so I wouldn't worry about making them unsightly. Ingrid |
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- Posted by harborrose 8b-PNW (My Page) on Thu, Aug 29, 13 at 3:39
| Kitty, 'Mme Melanie Willermoz' and 'Mlle. de Sombreuil' sometimes sold as 'La Biche' are both smaller tea roses you might like. I have MMW and it is a lovely bloom. I had MdS once but killed it up here. No doubt it would love your yard, though. I tried growing William R. Smith in a pot once upon a time. Then I tried to prune him so he'd stay smaller. Now that was two bad ideas! I also agree that Duchesse du Brabant might do fine in a pot for awhile or 'Madame Joseph Schwartz' . Gean |
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- Posted by jacqueline3 9CA (My Page) on Thu, Aug 29, 13 at 10:37
| I would not ever try and grow a tea rose in a pot, other than to let a rooted cutting get big enough to go into the ground. I did have Duchesse de Brabant in a very large pot while I waited to make a space for it - then I got lazy and it stayed in its large pot for 2 years. NOT a good idea - instead of making a nice shape, it put out two 7 foot long canes sideways to punish me, and was obviously very unhappy. I did finally get it into the ground, and it is doing much better. Has recuperated, and it contemplating eating the fence we planted it next to. Anyway, I agree with the folks above who suggest that, if you want a tea, get one that stays smaller, like Madmoiselle de Sombreuil (in commerce as La Biche), or Lady Hillingdon. I had a Lady Hillingdon, and it had a lovely full bush shape - no long canes sticking out looking for more worlds to conquer. Jackie |
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- Posted by kittymoonbeam 10 (My Page) on Thu, Aug 29, 13 at 18:29
| My thought was to plant my Devoniensis next year and surround it with annuals like pansies or lobelia. Then it's just the hard part of choosing between the more compact plants for my second area. Thanks for all your suggestions. Why do they all have to be so wonderful? |
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| The one Tea rose that bloomed better when it was still in a pot (for two years)than any other potted Tea, for me, was 'Mme. Berkeley' When she was only c.15 inches tall, and 24 inches wide she produced 17 or more blossoms. I cherished every one. The blooms were smaller of course because of the small size of the plant, but still gorgeous. Right now I have two Poly-Teas in pots, until I can find a place for them in the ground, and they are blooming as much in the pots as they do at my neighbors in the ground: 'Perle d'Or' and 'Mlle. Cecille Brunner' the pots are 1/2 gallon sized and they both have between 18 and 2 dozen blooms each. I have the M.C.B on a plant stand so I can take a whiff of its' heavenly fragrance as I walk by. -be sure you feed any potted rose more often than one in the ground, because the leaking water through the holes carries away nutrients. Lux. |
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- Posted by kittymoonbeam 10 (My Page) on Fri, Aug 30, 13 at 21:12
| Luxrosa I have the same two poly-teas in a bed near the front door for the same reason. They love to grow! I didn't know they had tea ancestors. Perle is fast becoming my largest rose ( not counting climbers or rambling Albertine on my old shed) unless you count the 3 Frederic Mistral planted together to hide the A/C. He's ok and does a good job covering it but I'm not that excited with the look of skyscraping HTs with a few flowers at the top. Duchesse would be so much prettier in the same location. I am thinking Lady H is most likely my choice for a smaller space I have. Shes so graceful, I know I would love having her live here. |
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