Anyone familiar with this rose?

Josh

My first specimen, budded, grew vigorously for a few years, then began to show signs of the die-back disease which at length carried off about a third of my collection. As this 'Gloire de Dijon' was among the first old roses I planted, and was also among the first to show this disease, I suspect it may have been the source in my garden. Even in its illness, though, it was among the most floriferous roses I had; and pathetic it was to see it bravely blooming away as the canes yellowed and withered.

My second 'Gloire de Dijon' was own-root. Like the first, it grew for a few years, then began to die.

My third 'Gloire de Dijon' was a kind gift from someone whose stock I have confidence in, and which he had confidence in. It grew for a few years, then withered and died. I was certain that it was something inherent to my garden; but then I heard from someone who had received a 'Gloire de Dijon' from this same source, and whose plant did exactly what mine did.

I don't know how it is with stock of 'Gloire de Dijon' overseas; but here, I've grown weary of these three or four year 'Gloire de Dijon' death marches I've had to witness. I am nothing if not loyal, and would very much like to pay tribute in my garden to the rose which meant so much to my gardening life and life in general; but . . . I am wary of any more attempts with 'Gloire de Dijon'.

I've heard it said that the current GdD is in decline.

"Gloire de Dijon is effectively an autotetraploid. Judging from old descriptions, this variety has suffered a general decline in vigor that cannot easily be attributed to viral infection." from Gigantism, Polyploidy and Hybrid Chinas by Karl King

Diane

Ingrid

Reve d'Or may have to be the one then. And it's Earth-kind to boot. I will post a pic later of the spot I am thinking of for this rose.

Josh

A friend tried 'Gloire de Dijon' here. It suffered from winter damage, dieback, poor vigor, and blackspot.

I looked at Crepuscule and I am not a fan of how the spent blooms resemble used tissues in their form.

How does the community feel about Duchesse d'Auerstadt?

Josh

Thank you for your kind words! :) I was very nearly to the conclusion that Reve D'Or would be best as well but your post gave me the push I needed. Reve D'Or will have to be the yellow Noisette I desire. I hope it is as fragrant as I hope!

Josh

Ingrid

Josh

Ingrid

Ingrid

Diane

:-)

~Christopher

Any thoughts on similarities in bloom, scent and heat tolerance?

I have a bush form from Burlington, but with out Vintage where would one find the climbing version?

Sorry about the bad quality of the photo but it was scanned by a friend who borrowed it to illustrate an article in a magazine.

Maybe it's true that we have a degenerate clonal line here in North America.

Did anyone here happen to order the much-anticipated Meurseault "Clone" of GdD that was one of the roses Vintage imported from Hook & Ducher? Let's hope it wasn't among the H&D group that failed to survive the import process, Does anyone know?

I indeed was looking at the regular Lady Hillingdon. Thanks Chris!

My only concern regarding which rose to choose is the fact that for the location of the rose (it will be eating a shed), I may be unable to provide care to the part of the plant which sits on top of the shed roof. Reve d'Or, being Earthkind, may just provide that little extra oomph of health and vigor I am looking for in a house eater.

Does anyone have experience setting a rose on eating a shed? I worry the weight of the plant may become too much for the shed. Do you all think this is a possibility? I certainly don't need the plant making the shed collapse...

Josh

Ingrid

:-)

~Christopher