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Mon, Sep 16, 13 at 11:27
| I visited Mailmaison the other day. the roses were very disappointing. none of them was from Josephine' s collection, or even era. all new HTs. The gardens are pretty and in good shape. Then I spent today at the Bagatelle. What a joy!! It was in full fall flush and just about everything was in bloom, healthy, weeded. There are very few antique roses there, just some of the ramblers, but after the letdown of Malmaison and the Roseraie, it was wonderful. I'll post photos when I get back. |
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| How sad that the French with their heritage of wonderful old roses and stellar breeders have turned their backs on all that for hybrid teas that everyone and his cousin is growing. And it's not that they don't have old rose nurseries, so there's really no excuse. Perhaps its just that there as here even those who should know better, don't. Ingrid |
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- Posted by mariannese 5b (My Page) on Wed, Sep 18, 13 at 4:51
| I was equally disappointed in 2001 that the roses in the Filoli Gardens in Woodside were all the newest of the new HT's and not roses from before 1936 when the Bourns died. Or at least roses from the time of the next owners. Polyanthas, early floribundas and older HT's would have suited the place better than the latest Meilland roses. Hopefully, the situation has improved? Marianne in Sweden |
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| I dunno - I have yet to see a 'rose garden' I like. Some of the very worst (to my mind) are the awful one in Regent's park (Queen something or other), a horrible collection of Austins in Blackpool's Stanley Park, even Kew and Wisley have a poor show. I simply cannot abide to see rows of stunted hybrid teas (or even shrubs and climbers for that matter) unleavened by a rich array of shrubs and perennials. There are very few roses with the grace and beauty to truly stand alone (although Nevada springs into my mind immediately).....the growth habits of many leave me chilled and I fail to find anything even slightly attractive about gnarly bare legs or synchronised rows of bushes.....and they can be disguised and helped along with a million obelisks, sculptures and treillage,,,,but I still feel absolutely zero joy.....and I don't count a few half hearted iris as sufficient accompaniment (Beales in Norfolk). |
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| Campanula...LOL, and I feel the same. Like a cheap, flashy chorus line. |
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- Posted by cemeteryrose USDA 9/Sunset 14 (My Page) on Sat, Sep 21, 13 at 16:03
| Suzy - have you seen Mottisfont? There's a decent rose garden, at least by my lights! Plenty of companion plants! I don't care for most rose gardens, and was especially disappointed by the rose garden at Wisley. At least the Sacramento cemetery has mature (old) trees and shrubs, monuments, and poppies and other companion plants in addition to the iris - and old-fashioned roses that are allowed to grow huge. If it was one of those gardens with nothing but roses lined up in bare beds, I wouldn't spend so much time there. |
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