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Anyone grow the Austin rose Hyde Hall?

Posted by leezen4u Z10 Sunset Z24 coas (My Page) on
Fri, Sep 26, 14 at 12:11

I was wondering about your garden experience with this rose. I have seen it growing at the San Jose Heritage Rose Garden. Here is a pic I took of it when I visited there in late April.....


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RE: Anyone grow the Austin rose Hyde Hall?

I don't grow it but may have too! That is gorgeous!


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RE: Anyone grow the Austin rose Hyde Hall?

Austin highly recommends it for hedges and your picture convinces me that that is a good idea! Beautiful hedge.

I have no experience with it, but I remember a forum poster complaining that the blooms were too small--but when I look at your picture, the blooms don't look small at all.

Go to the Rose Index page and scroll to the bottom--find the search box and type in Hyde Hall. Not many posters grow it, but I do remember at least one thread that had several people commenting on it.

Good luck in your search.

Kate


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RE: Anyone grow the Austin rose Hyde Hall?

Well I hate to gripe but feel I really must speak up. I grew it as a hedge and it was unsuccessful. It had the choicest position in the garden - full sun, excellent soil, plenty of TLC. The growth was awkward and uneven. It has the habit of shooting up massive basals which grow quickly and are prone to breaking; they need support so I had all these poles sticking up everywhere. Meanwhile other parts of the plants have spindly sparsely foliated branches. Maybe as a lone plant with some pruning this growth can be tamed but for a hedge you need fairly even growth.

Not that this is a concern in your climate, but in case any cold zoners are reading, it suffered terribly from winter die back which was a surprise since DA recommends it as one of their very hardy varieties. I had the grafts sunk nice and deep and even mounded more soil for the winter. One year I tried protecting with bales of straw and it got canker.

In their commercial description, DA advises against spraying HH. We have awful blackspot here. For a couple years I did not spray and it defoliated completely. Finally I did spray figuring if the spray doesn't kill it the BS will. With spray (tried propiconizole and mancozeb) it defoliated about 50%. Its best attribute is that it never stopped blooming even without leaves, and the flowers are very lovely. Very mild fragrance. Last but not least, it was a Japanese beetle magnet. Ick.

Your photo from San Jose looks wonderful. Maybe mine just wanted to move to California, who could blame it ;)


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RE: Anyone grow the Austin rose Hyde Hall?

  • Posted by leezen4u Z10 Sunset Z24 coas (My Page) on
    Sat, Sep 27, 14 at 13:02

Thanks dublinbay and ratdogheads for the comments....


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