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| How does 'Climbing American Beauty' do in coastal Southern California (L.A. basin or similar)? Do the flowers blow too quickly? I notice many people from various areas and various eras stating that the petals don't drop and consequently the appearance of the specimen suffers--is this so, or is it folks just being too particular (myself, I like the look of "bluing" flowers)? How's fragrance, growth, and disease resistance in So Cal? Scattered bloom throughout the year, or only the one big Spring flush? Thanks for your thoughts. |
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- Posted by jacqueline3 9CA (My Page) on Sun, Sep 7, 14 at 22:26
| Sorry I am not in So Cal, but I am in a warm climate 4 blocks from SF Bay in No Cal. When we moved in to our house I found 3 climbing roses (which were identified as Cl American Beauty 20 years later) growing in our garden. All of them were growing in partial shade, and had not had any care to speak of for over 25 years. They all bloomed every Spring, for a substantial amount of time (about 2 months). We eventually cut down a fir tree that was practically on top of one of them, and it got even happier - pic below. I have rooted another from them and planted it in more sun. So, what I know about this rose here is that it is a survivor for sure, and blooms once for a long time. The individual blooms last for a long time also. I have seen a few blooms coming out one or two months after the bush had theoretically stopped blooming on the ones in full sun. Very fragrant. I never spray it with anything, and it does not get any diseases here. (We live on a main street 3 blocks from the downtown of San Rafael, so perhaps the car exhaust helps that?). The canes are long but small around and very lax, and easy to train. Here is a pic of one of our very old ones last Spring (this is the one that used to live under a fir tree - it is on a fence, but pruned off on one side, as it is right next to the driveway. jackie |
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- Posted by jacqueline3 9CA (My Page) on Sun, Sep 7, 14 at 22:29
| Here is the baby one in its first Spring (I planted it the Fall before). Very happy, and as you can see it has not been pruned or trained at all at this point, and is living happily with valerian, yellow iris, and lunaria. Since then we got it a rose obelesk, and it is trained to twine around it. Jackie |
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| Many thanks, Jacqueline--it looks wonderful! I'm tempted to give it a try . . . Does it set hips? Are they decorative? |
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- Posted by mendocino_rose z8 N CA. (My Page) on Mon, Sep 8, 14 at 8:21
| I have a friend who grew it in Sacramento where summers are hot. It didn't rebloom for her. Here as long as the weather is mild( say no more than low 80s) and I dead head it blooms in flushes. It's not entirely disease free but not a problem. We're 150 miles north of SF zone 8 with occasional foggy mornings. |
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- Posted by jacqueline3 9CA (My Page) on Mon, Sep 8, 14 at 12:43
| Odinthor - I forgot to mention that I was surprised by your comment that you had heard that "the petals don't drop". On all 4 of my bushes, the petals drop quite promptly (unlike, say Niles Cochet, which holds on to its dead petals, leading to that "dead rag" look allover the bush). However, mine hardly ever set hips. So, what you get it just those little dried ends where the blooms used to be. I cut them off, but if I don't they are not big enough to be obnoxious. Here is one last picture which has some blooms in it which are obviously finishing. I don't see (or remember) much "bluing" on this rose - not like some of my red roses. Re the bloom period, as I said I get a few roses for 1-2 months after the Spring flush is finished. And, during the Spring flush new blooms appear for weeks, leading to its long blooming period. Jackie |
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- Posted by jacqueline3 9CA (My Page) on Tue, Sep 9, 14 at 16:58
| So far this thread has gotten descriptions of this rose in No Cal, far No Cal, and Sacramento, but none from coastal LA (LA basin), which is what was requested in the first place. Any thoughts by those of you in So Cal? Jackie |
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| I noticed that too, Jackie, and am intrigued. It's just not "in" in So Cal, or doesn't do well here? Hmmmm . . . |
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