As with most climbing roses give them time to grow and settle in. You won't see as much blooming the first year and there might be more disease than you would like but they will grow through that.

Paul

I have a question regarding clones. I realize that some roses will make noticeable "sports" and these sports can then be propagated from vegetative cuttings. Usually the sports are identified by a new color, more petals, change in growth habit (bush rose sporting a climbing cane).

Isn't it also likely that a particular rose, like MN, can sport as well...but not in noticeable traits such as color, petal count etc., but just in vigor? And, if you have a large bush from which a propagator is taking cuttings, isn't it likely that cuttings from the vigorous "half" of the bush will be vigorous, while cuttings from a non-vigorous half of the bush would be non-vigorous? I would think that the roses would be identical in every way except vigor. Even though the same bush was used to make the cuttings (clones of the parent), in fact, they are not all identical.

So when someone has a particular specimen of a rose that is growing very well and another specimen of that same variety (perhaps purchased from another vendor)may not grow vigorously are in your garden, perhaps one rose came from a vigorous cutting while another came from a cutting that lacked vigor?

My reasoning may be faulty, but I really believe that there are specimens of the same "named" variety that are more vigorous than others...and, I'm not considering that some are less vigorous because they are virused...that's a whole other discussion.

Does anyone else feel that some specimens of a named variety are, in fact, more vigorous than others? I often hear people ask what vendor they got a particular rose from. Or they will comment that a particular vendor has particularly vigorous "clone" of a particular variety.

Robert