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Posted by gardening_fever z8, bc (My Page) on Tue, Oct 27, 09 at 13:20
| Hi everyone,
I just moved to our new/old house and am in the midst of designing the garden.
I came across this pergola which i love in the pics and would love to be able to train roses onto it. I"m just wondering if anyone on this forum by chance have tried that? My main concern is whether the structure is strong enough to support the weight.
Thanks, Karen. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Pergola
Follow-Up Postings:
RE: pergola
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| Looks good to me and the two reviews both felt it was strong and solid. If you use mannerly climbers rather than massive ramblers you should be fine. And mannerly climbers would also show off the structure rather than hide it. |
RE: pergola
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| Thanks Catsrose, I do have Crown Princess Margareta and Colette that I think would be considered mannerly. |
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| It's beautiful. But, be sure you plant climbers that are not rampant. They would eat that structure in no time! robert |
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| Robert, that is such an important comment to make about climbers. I wish I had read up on climbers before having planted them. I have made so many mistakes because of having made the wrong choice. Sammy |
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| You won't have to worry about Crown Princess Margareta or Colette. It's a beautiful pergola. |
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| Thanks Robert, Sammy and Menodina rose, i won't put a monster on the structure. I am afraid of the big guys pulling it down or soemthing. (I do have Alchymist and Awakening though that i need to figure out what to do with). I think i just picture some roses trained up the pillars and just trained a few feet along the top edge of the "roof" so that you can look up to see some roses looking down on you. I think from what i've read anyway CPM and Colette would do the job. mix in maybe a roguchi clematis and sweet peas maybe. The pic in my head is so pretty. DH saw the pic of it last night and says it's ugly!!!! There is a smaller one from Target that maybe i'll end up getting and do the same as my plans above. Another question: what do people do with Alchymist and Awakening in an average city yard? I've been admiring their blooms for a few years no so i couldn't help myself when ordering this year. Karen. |
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| Although, I don't have an average city yard, I AM growing Awakening over the gate/arch to my courtyard garden area. I keep it well pruned and train it horizontally along the garden wall. I'm not sure this is much help. Robert |
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| Oh, that pergola screams for roses! Since you live in zone 8 you may also want to consider a noisette or one of the climbing teas. I am not familiar enough with them to advise one way or the other about whether they would grow well in a mannerly fashion for you, but given the late Victorian appearance of the pergola I think an antique climbing rose, with flowers nodding down at you when you look up, might be a delightful experience! |
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| Robert, Would you happen to have any pics of your luscious sounding Awakening that you can easily post? Hmm - good idea York rose. I've never tried growing any teas. Just remembered i also have Blairii no. 1 - no. 2 died - which is old and Victorian isn't it? Thanks for the ideas! |
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| I saw this one in person and was going to get it myself. It is gorgeous!!! |
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| Robert, Would you happen to have any pics of your luscious sounding Awakening that you can easily post? You need to remember that in your hardiness zone anything that is a clone of Dr. Van Fleet (as both New Dawn & Awakening both are) is capable of growing 15'-20' tall. The flowers are TRULY drop-dead gorgeous, but do you really want to deal with a very thorny rose that will constantly fight with you over how big it wants to be?? Yes, that rose (in any of its sports) is one of my favorites and an ethereally beautiful rose, but even so, if you have a pergola that only goes so high, and Dr. Van Fleet/New Dawn/Awakening will try to grow twice or three times as high as the pergola, are you making a good choice for your garden, or are you falling in love with a monster? There are probably tens or hundreds of other equally worthy roses. |
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| I don't have a good picture of this rose. I've had it in its spot for about 3-4 years, and it has yet to become a monster. I do have some other roses that have become monsters in my yard: Baltimore Belle, Cecile Brunner, Mme. Alfred Carriere. Robert Another possibility for this pergola might be Climbing Pinkie. Robert |
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| Hi York Rose, Thanks for the warning but I wasn't planning on putting Awakening on the pergola. I was just saying in the previous post that i wasn't putting monsters on the pergola and was wondering what people actually do with these monsters in an average city yard to get some idea as to where I SHOULD plant mine. :) I currently have it in a large pot and it is looking to climb. Robert if you don't mind i will copy your idea and put it on an arch to my vegetable garden area. It would be such a nice transitioning "gateway". I generally do fall for the monsters though I try to resist the temptation but eventually I buckle I think. What's a girl suppose to do? (Going away to sharpen my pruners) ;) Thanks!!! |
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| My son wanted something like that, so I helped him look. We saw a lot on ebay, and you should see the prices! So if it's sturdy and well made, presumably solid iron and not a lighter metal/alloy, I don't see how you can go wrong at that price. Maybe it is cast, assembled; some are all hand made. The only thing I don't like about it is the clunky look above the feet, so maybe that's partly why your husband objects. Overall, it's lovely and a nice design. But those leg bulges would really be an aid in getting climbers going. I wasn't going to comment but remembered something I'd read along the way. They look pretty stable, but it was mentioned that they ought to be anchored. It's hard to see how the wind could blow it over, but if it toppled on a person, it might severely injure or kill them. Do what you think is best about that. |
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