I am considering a modern, Honey Bouquet, but want to make sure there isn't a rose I am overlooking. My yard has a mix of the old and new, and I would prefer an O.G.R., but a modern rose with a form that compliments the O.G.R.'s. Is okay too.

Criteria:
I am looking for a medium size soft yellow rose that does not have to be fragrant. If it is wider than it is tall that would be spectacular. Generally, I have an aversion to yellow except for golden, Golden Celebration and soft or pale yellows.

As always, any assistance you can provide is greatly appreciated.

Lynn

Lynn

My own climate has lots of summer days in the 90's but most years only a few in the 100's, putting us a welcome notch away from full desert heat.

I would suspect that even if Lady H did well in a hotter climate -- and I do not know that it would not -- the sun would bleach the color out. Even in my own garden, all the yellow roses bleach several shades lighter, many all the way to cream. In your climate I would recommend getting a yellow that is deeper than you actually want to compensate for this, otherwise, something recommended as not fading in the hot sun.

I absolutely agree. The rose has to maintain the yellow color, as it will be near white roses and cream would just defeat the purpose of my trying to make an impact with this color. This rose will also receive sun filtered through the canopy of a large tree for most of the day which could help...?? But what rose. Julia Child is gorgeous but I believe it will be too large. I have considered Molineaux but do not know how large it will become?

Crepuscule will be too big for you.

Have you considered something like 'Julia Child'? I'm thinking, many of the older yellows were soft yellows, not infrequently fading out to a very pale color. OR, if they did not fade, the blooms just don't last long, in hot, dry weather.

I know my coastal conditions are very unlike yours, but we do get these fall periods when the temperatures rise, the humidity drops to single digits, and the wind blows. If a rose turns to potpourri HERE at such times, it's probably not what you want.

My neighbor's Julia Child (in a large pot) has nowhere near the same grace and elegance as Lady Hillingdon (admittedly, my aesthetic) -- it's a 3' clump of ho-hum flowers that fade in the sun and not in bloom as frequently as Lady Hillingdon. In any case, if you think Julia Child might be too big (if it weren't in a pot, who knows?), LH will definitely be too big.

Lynn

Ingrid

I have Duchesse D'Auerstadt and would recommend her for a hot desert climate. She is probably my healthiest, strongest tea noisette (well, except for the weed, Alister Stella Gray and I don't have Reve D'or). But then, I could whine forever about tea noisettes as I love love them but they are sooo difficult. I have Chromatella that has hung on for about 3 years and has never done much (but, I'm grateful it hasn't died!). It has never bloomed but I will probably never give up on it since I will faint when I finally see one of its supposedly exquisite blooms.

But, I am getting off the subject...

Option #1: The space can accommodate a bush that is about 5' wide and tall, but about 3' around.

Option#2# There is a tree in my front yard that filters the sunlight. The tree trunk and main branches are growing in the normal manner creating a crown??? and then there is a major branch that extends away from the trunk toward the sidewalk. This tree branch is 70" high and extends over the area where the rose will be. I have seen rose canes wrapped around a trunk, but wrapped a major branch???

This has become soooo difficult.....

Lynn

How large is your Duchesse D'Auerstadt? My fear with Etoile de Lyon is that for all intents and purposes it will be cream for most of the year and this rose must truly be yellow or a soft yellow.

Lynn

Jeri

Rosefolly

My Etoile de Lyon is in partial sun and it seems like it is a soft yellow rather than cream. No blooms on it right now though and if I can find a picture I'll post it.

Here's a picture of my Molineaux from several years ago so you can get in idea of how big it gets here. It is a rose that does well in my climate and doesn't get too big.

I have contemplated putting a large shrub like Mexican Sage, a cactus, succulent, or tall iris in the spot but the space is so wide, and thus I really did not know how it would look, and then I may need to address the water requirements of a say three to four iris plants versus one rose bush. The only yellow that I have seen that I think will not overpower the SDLM in the vicinity is a tea or soft yellow rose. The perennials I am familiar with are lemony yellow. I really like penstemon and they will grow here. Thank you for the suggestion, I will definitely look it up:)

Jaspermplants, your Molineaux is lovely and definitely would work in terms of height but the space is as wide as what it will accommodate in height. I would love to see your Etoile de Lyon. If you can locate and post the picture that would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for the color info. We haven't be above the 80's consistently since some time toward the end of September and will likely be in the 60's maybe 70's for much of November. Like your area, it is the summer that is of concern, the rest of the year is basically a breeze.

I have been searching for three days to no avail and honestly am close to putting a large succulent or some kind of perennial in the area.

Lynn