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| So I have asked for help over on the Texas board, but I wondered if anyone here had suggestions for me. I live in central Texas, about an hour outside of Waco. Zone 8b. I have a flowerbed that is a problem child. It's on the Northwest side of my house. It gets full shade all day until 3 or 4, then it gets the frying, deadly summer sun for about 3 or 4 hours. It gets less sun in the winter. The other issue is that it gets massive amounts of runoff when it rains [which it doesn't seem to do often anymore]. I don't know what to plant here. I would literally take a suggestion of any kind. Except holly. I don't care for holly. I would love to put rose bushes in here, but I know the likelihood of them surviving or flourishing here is low. I would be content with nice looking bushes, even if they stay small and don't bloom often...Is there something that might do ok here? Or am I living in a fool's paradise to think I can grow roses under those hostile conditions? Thoughts, experts? Here's the bed: |
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| The bed is kind of narrow-looking for a medium to large shrub rose. There's a few that might survive and bloom a little with just 3-4 hours of sun, but most would need more room. You might try Ballerina, a hybrid musk rose. You could also try growing some ramblers up the posts. I think I'd plant dwarf English boxwoods (Buxus sempervirens 'Suffruticosa') there instead -- nice evergreen easy-to-plant and shade tolerant. |
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| Thanks Lori- The bed is quite narrow. I would want a more compact shrub rose if any. I will check into Ballerina. I will look into the dwarf English boxwoods. I figured I'd need to do some type of evergreen shrub here, but had no idea what to choose. You know, a gal can hope for more roses... |
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- Posted by jacqueline3 9CA (My Page) on Tue, Oct 29, 13 at 16:35
| Saw that your bed is raised, which is great, because even if it rains a ton it should drain OK. If it was mine I would put in a bunch of "Little White Pet" roses right in a row to make a short hedge. I have three growing in different parts of my garden, and mine never get taller than 18 inches and about 18-24 inches wide (and we are zone 9 where everything gets larger than it is supposed to). The blooms are perfect little rosettes, it blooms A LOT, and when it is not blooming it is covered in leaves to the dirt, and makes a nice round shaped shrub. It is practically indestructible. I have one growing in a place where it only gets 3 hours of sunlight with no problems. I have another which is growing right next to (by which I mean within inches) the curb & gutter of our street, and that entire part of that bed floods frequently in the Wintertime. LWP shrugs it off and decides to bloom again. I might put something on the posts, but probably not a rose - most of the ones I know which would go up those posts would also become 3-4 feet wide at a minimum. If you can find some sort of miniature flowering vine, that would work. Jackie |
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- Posted by poorbutroserich none (My Page) on Tue, Oct 29, 13 at 17:32
| Cypress vine is dainty looking but a real tough vine. It could take your conditions and the red attracts hummingbirds like crazy! It would look pretty with LWP.... Susan |
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| Little White Pet might be tough enough to withstand morning shade and high heat in the afternoon but from personal experience I know that very few roses would do well, especially with the concrete nearby. People who don't live in a hot, dry climate sometimes don't realize how stressed roses will be in a morning shade/afternoon and evening sun location. I have one SdlM in morning sun/afternoon shade and another in morning shade/afternoon sun and the difference in appearance of these two roses is stunning, in spite of all the TLC I've heaped on the latter of the two. I'm not certain that boxwood would survive there either, or it might survive and look very dried out during summer. I hope something will thrive there since it's such a very nice bed. I wonder if pelargoniums would do well there, which would drape over the edges of the bed. Mine bloom almost all year, although the most successful ones are those planted where they have afternoon shade. Ingrid |
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| First thing I would do is remove as much of the soil from the bed as I could. If you can dig 1-1/2 to 2 feet down that would do it. I would pick something my neighbors have been successful with in their gardens with the same growing conditions. Good luck, Lee |
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