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Is it too early to move a rose--in SoCa?

Posted by prickles SoCa (My Page) on
Thu, Oct 17, 13 at 19:55

I clipped myself a little nosegay this morning--Blue Girl, Memorial Day, Lady Emma Hamilton, Jude the Obscure, Young Lycidas and St. Cecilia--and found the powerfully sharp citrus scents on LEH and JtO so strong that they literally made the hair on my neck bristle and stand up, and my mouth watered--still waters as I am writing and thinking about their scents--as if I'd just had a sour sip of vinegar! Of course I positively love their strong scents; they were so overwhelming but still I could also smell the distinct sweetness of damask on Memorial Day and YL, even St. Cecilia's myrrh scent of the baby powder "dirty diaper" stink--rather feral to my nose--all I could smell up-close but BG, which I foolishly thought to be one of the better smellers. But no! BG--which I kept around with all her flaws of mildew and slight rust--BG's scent wasn't as good as I remembered: no lemony face cream or tonic water smells from Grandma's days, but a moderate sweetness with a dim hint of maculated mold? (I don't know why it never occurred to me to cut a bouquet of mixed roses to smell and compare the different fragrances.) Well, I was a little surprised and, in happy sadness, a little relief--resolved--determined finally--which got me thinking aloud to myself: I need to dig out the remaining 2 plants of BG and put the space to better use. I could grow them in pots. But the first BG I dug up last month for my landlord and planted it for him in the backyard died. I know people in cooler climates have successfully moved and relocated roses around this time of the year, or even earlier. So after this aimless rambling--too much coffee and not enough sleep--I want to ask whether it's best to dig up the roses later in the season, say, Nov. or Dec. for folks in the southland?

Or should I save myself such grief and just SP them? Either way, they have to come out. It's eviction time!

oops I wanted to add a pic but submitted the post before uploading one...

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This post was edited by prickles on Thu, Oct 17, 13 at 20:03


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RE: Is it too early to move a rose--in SoCa?

You can probably manage it. BUT we are having continued hot/dry conditions -- no change in the coming week.

We, too, have something we badly need to move, but we are waiting for the weather to become a bit cooler and more humid.

Jeri


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RE: Is it too early to move a rose--in SoCa?

Depending on where you are in SoCal, if you just want to shovel prune the offenders and not worry about trying to save them, sure, dig them out and send them off to the great landfill in the sky. But, if your hopes are to move them successfully, I would wait until there are chances of rain. I'm not transplanting any of my seedlings from the seed tables until there aren't dry winds; heat spikes and low humidity. IF we get rains, all the moving around you want to do will be accomplished much more easily and successfully. If you are already getting rain, go for it. Unfortunately, like Jeri, we aren't receiving any relief from the aridity. Kim


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RE: Is it too early to move a rose--in SoCa?

You can chance it but if you don't have a pressing need, it's going to be better later. If I am going to move them early, I like to wait until a period of cool or even better, rain is on the way. Something that will give at least 5 days of cool cloudy humid conditions after the move. Late Nov-Jan is always safer here


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RE: Is it too early to move a rose--in SoCa?

Thank you for your sensible inputs...Jeri, Kim and Kittymoon

I don't think we'll be seeing rain any time soon. And of course, it's unseasonably hot and dry, is it still Santa Ana?
The whole 5--is it 5 already?--years I've living in SoCal I vaguely remember rain, or what some locals consider rainfall here during the wet season. (I would really like a downpour, a thunderstorm with lightning claps etc... but that's not the case--I guess I would have to go to the desert or go up to mountains for that!) I'm in Los Angeles--about 15 minute from downtown. I think we have a little micro-climate here, it's always a few degrees cooler than the temp. reported for downtown.

Well, I guess I'll wait till Dec. for the move or even later--since I can't think of anything I have as replacements off my head right now.


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RE: Is it too early to move a rose--in SoCa?

Yes. Do wait. In a normally-rainy year (no, you haven't seen one) good conditions should continue well into February.

We in SoCal -- we must all pray for rain here, and snow in the Transverse Ranges.

Jeri


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