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Madame Alfred Carriere without support

Posted by JoshTx 8a (My Page) on
Sat, Oct 26, 13 at 21:02

I am curious to know if anyone has seen or grown a MAC as a freestanding bush (read: man-eater). I imagine it would make quite the impressive sight, but would letting it grow naturally decrease its bloom production compared to tying it horizontally?

Thanks y'all!

Josh


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RE: Madame Alfred Carriere without support

I have seen it at the Nixon Presidential Library in Yorba Linda CA. They have two large beautiful ones. I don't know how they were trained to be shrubs but they look fantastic.


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RE: Madame Alfred Carriere without support

I have one fronting the south side of my greenhouse for warmth. I used 4 rebar poles banged into the ground around her. Almost like a corral. She developed a bit of a fountain shape. This summer the stalks were strone enough so that 2 of them could be removed. She is a beast. Lovingly said.
Jeannie


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RE: Madame Alfred Carriere without support

Most old climbing roses, if grown say, in the middle of an empty field, will turn into large mounds with the canes making a fountain shape. So, the canes are sort of horizontal, and they do bloom a lot.

Mine all were planted at the bottom of a tree or structure. Here is a picture of one of mine. The bottom of the picture is the roof of our garage - the rose climbed up to the 9 ft high roof from the ground, and then as you can see decided to eat our neighbor's pine tree. It goes up 15 feet higher than you can see in this pic - I had to make the pic a little smaller because GW said it was too large to post.

Jackie


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RE: Madame Alfred Carriere without support

Wow...that's a heck of a rose. Thanks Jackie! Does she need much care once established?

Josh


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RE: Madame Alfred Carriere without support

I throw a handfull of osmocote at the base once a year, and it gets a very small amount of water during our 6-7 month total drought each Summer. No, I don't climb up onto the roof and into the tree to prune it, ever, and it has never been sprayed (and never shown any signs of disease). Here in No California it is a super rose if you have the room.

jackie


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