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Fri, Nov 16, 12 at 1:29
| I have decided not to keep my climbing Souvenir de la Malmaison, or my bush form of the same.
They have both been a disappointment. The climbing form flowers in February, when we have the majority of our annual rainfall. Of course it balls and then hangs on as brown, tissue balls for weeks. It has climbed well, high up in an old pomegranate tree. Well out of the reach of deadheading. The rest of the year, it might produce a total of three more blooms. The bush form flowers. but mediocrely. Then it spends most of the time with a bad case of powdery mildew. So, I have decided they have to go. I thought someone on the Island of Crete might like them. They might also be able to give them conditions more to their liking than my garden does. So, I offered them free yesterday, on two of the local forums. So far, my post has had a total of 210 views, but not a single enquiry. This has surprised me. I thought that they would be snapped up straight away. Is it me? I know most people are not as passionate about beautiful roses as I am. But surely most people love roses? Daisy |
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- Posted by mendocino_rose z8 N CA. (My Page) on Fri, Nov 16, 12 at 9:10
| It's suprising. I once offered some crocosmia bulbs and wished I hadn't because of too much response. Maybe there aren't a lot of rose growers and they're afraid of roses. We are fortunate here with Bourbons. The climate doesn't favor PM. My climbing SDLM is blooming now after a good summer prune. |
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| Daisy, I'm disappointed that you can't grow SdlM. I thought we had fairly similar climates and mine is doing wonderfully well, no disease, never balls, in bloom ten months out of the year, loves the heat - the perfect rose. I wonder if in your area people are not familiar with old roses and shy away because of that. A foreign-sounding long name may also be a deterrent. It's a shame; in the right location this rose is a winner. Ingrid |
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| SdlM is a dreadful rose here at the Ventura Co., (SoCal) coast. NO real Bourbons succeed here, but SdlM is among the worst. It mildews. It balls. It grows poorly. It blooms scantily. I KNOW what it can look like, when it is happy. It's lovely in TX. Daisy -- How do you do with Tea Roses, and China Roses? Noisettes? Jeri |
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- Posted by harborrose 8a-PNW (My Page) on Fri, Nov 16, 12 at 17:49
| Daisy, On the forums, are there often offers of plant and cutting exchanges? If not, perhaps they're not used to generosity and think there must be some catch. |
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| Or, perhaps the Cretans think as I do - SDLM is a horrid rose with indeterminate colour and bloom structure....and looks especially dreary under a bright Mediterranean sun. |
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| :-) I had this argument, over time, with the late Col Mel Hulse. He said: "But it is a GREAT rose!" I said: "It doesn't matter in the LEAST how good it is somewhere else, if it is garbage HERE. And it is." There's always another rose. :-) Jeri |
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- Posted by mad_gallica Z5 Eastern NY (My Page) on Fri, Nov 16, 12 at 19:40
| When I have roses that aren't performing, they get sent at least 1000 miles away. At that distance, all bets are off. At a close distance, it is likely to have to same problems there it does here. |
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- Posted by melissa_thefarm NItaly (My Page) on Sat, Nov 17, 12 at 0:08
| I wonder if they don't suspect a catch: an Italian, one who wasn't used to gardeners and their ways, would. SDLM does pretty well for me, though in an unfriendly spot. It's healthy and I like the fragrance. So far I haven't gotten any babies from it, but hope to get around to taking cuttings again this fall. |
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- Posted by daisyincrete 10? (My Page) on Sat, Nov 17, 12 at 1:32
| Jeri. All my Tea Roses, Noisettes and one China Rose do very well here, with the exception of poor Duchesse de Brabant which was plagued by thrips. My china rose Archduke Charles thrives in the hottest, sunniest part of the garden. I have now had almost 500 views of my post and still no response at all!!!! Daisy |
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| You could let that thread of yours die down, and then in two weeks offer big lightest pink climbing rose. It would be interesting to see if it's the French name that's offputting. Mal maison does mean sick house if one hasn't the background of Josephine and her garden in their mind. |
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| Daisy -- that's what I thought you'd say. Surrounded by the sea, your situation may be similar to ours, so I suspect the same roses would do well -- and ill. Jeri |
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- Posted by jill_perry z9 CA (My Page) on Wed, Nov 21, 12 at 2:18
| You can keep the climber cut back to large bush size. It will rebloom more, and you can reach the balled ones to cut them off. When it throws out a long cane, cut it back by half, and it will put out two shorter canes and bloom on them. I know this because I ordered the bush and planted it, then realized it was the climber, and there's no room there for it to climb. Jill |
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