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| Does anyone here have experience with this rose? I received a band of it from RVR and while my other bands have begun leafing out, it still sits there stoically. It is not declining, so I suppose I shouldn't worry, but I have no experience with Gallica roses so do not know what to expect. Thanks! Josh |
This post was edited by JoshTx on Fri, Nov 1, 13 at 1:42
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| proliferation....is what to expect with this one. But, it does have that lush gallica foliage and, provided you can give it a little suuport (its a flopper) you should get lots of cabbagey blooms. A very healthy rose in my garden but at least every other year, it tends to have those vegetative centres on nearly every bloom. |
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| I hope you get some extended periods of winter chill where you are... |
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- Posted by desertgarden561 9/SZ11 -Las Vegas, N (My Page) on Fri, Nov 1, 13 at 13:36
| Josh, Near the top of listed roses I love most are the Gallicas, but I am in warmer zone 9a or 9b according to charts, and would not dare try them here, or that is least the caution I have heeded:( It is a beauty, so hopefully it is just doing the "sleep" thing... Lynn |
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| The gallicas can be verrrrry late into leaf - almost as bad as hardy hibiscus in my garden....so I wouldn't be too fussed if yours is doing nowt at the moment....and you really do need to maintain a period of dormancy. Possibly more annoying might be having a hot spring - they frizzle very quickly indeed without the sort of cool damp springs we see in N.Europe |
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| Campanula, Thanks so much! Hopefully I'll have good news to report in the spring. If this little experiment doesn't work out I can't say I won't be surprised. Lynn, The once-bloomers appeal to me for some reason; most like it's because they are so iffy here. I have read some old threads where Melva, who lives in Denton not even 30 minutes from me, grows some once-bloomers. Reading that makes me naively optimistic... Trospero, Can you define "extended periods of winter chill" for me? As a novice I am not quite sure what qualifies as such. Josh |
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| Josh, Perhaps you might consider establishing contact with a rose society in Texas and ask to be put in touch with a member familiar with OGRs. You might also want to peruse the offerings of the 2 preeminent rose nurseries in Texas -- Antique Rose Emporium and Chamblee's. Search for the Gallicas they offer. Very slim pickings, I'll bet. My SO's family has lived in the TX panhandle and endured its harsh winters for many generations. We've often visited extended family there -- Amarillo, Borger, Dumas, Pampa . . . even Sunray, Cactus and White Deer. Several of those folks have fairly impressive gardens (especially Flo in Pampa), but I feel safe in stating that none of them would consider attempting Gallicas. Gallicas in Texas? Well, I suppose there are always isolated exceptions, but I think you'd be well-advised to invest some time in research before investing in "iffy" roses. |
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- Posted by mad_gallica Z5 Eastern NY (My Page) on Fri, Nov 1, 13 at 22:26
| Years ago, when we went to an HRF convention in Dallas, what gallicas we saw were almost unrecognizable. They were tiny, obviously unhappy, and poor bloomers. In particular, I remember a Rosa Mundi that was almost like an abandoned puppy. I could hear it begging to come home with me to a reasonable climate. There are once bloomers that have mixed enough ancestry to do well without a winter. |
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- Posted by harborrose 8-Puget Sound/PNW (My Page) on Sat, Nov 2, 13 at 1:02
| Josh, Right now, I don't think Duc de Guiche's non growth is anything to worry about. My own DdGuiche is two years old and might actually bloom a little next spring; it has been pretty slow to get started. Actually, I've gotten a number of own root gallica bands that are slow to get started. It is also a very hardy rose, so no kind of Texas norther will bother it. You may have enough winter chill for it; you'll know in a couple of years. How it handles your summers is another question, but you'll know that too in a couple of years. But right now, I don't think there is anything to worry about. I saw a mature Duc de Guiche a couple of springs ago, and it was a sight to behold. It was about 5 feet x 5 feet and totally covered with beautiful blooms. This was in western Washington, though, close to the tulip fields. Good luck with growing it, Josh; it will be fun to hear your reports of how it does. I hope you surprise everyone, but if not, you'll have tried and figured out some things along the way. Pretty good investment of $20, I'd say! Gean |
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| Josh, To flower properly, the Gallicas require a cold dormancy involving several weeks of cold weather where the lows routinely reach 45F or less for several hours at a time. |
Here is a link that might be useful: TAMU chill-hours calculator.
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| Josh, Please do others in your area a favor and report back on how 'Duc de Guiche' performs in your garden, okay? |
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| Trospero, Our weather already a dips into the 45 range at night, so that is encouraging. While others are already getting snow, Texas' true winter occurs in January-February. Jaxondel, I will be sure to follow up with how the plant holds up. Josh |
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