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Best place to plant R. Moschata?
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bman1920 MI (
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Sat, Nov 30, 13 at 8:25
| I have R. Moschata coming in the spring. It is coming from palatine so it will be on multiflora. Im zone 5 michigan. Cant really find alot on the web. Should it get some afternoon shade or should it get all day sun? Does it like pruned or does it like to grow huge? Lots of questions any info is appreciated. |
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RE: Best place to plant R. Moschata?
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| bman, I have had this rose for a couple of years, in full sun in Texas and it doesn't miss a beat. Help Me Find says it gets 8-12 feet tall Love this rose! |
RE: Best place to plant R. Moschata?
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| I don't think R. Moschata is hardy past zone 6b. You should plant it in a warm sheltered spot and be prepared for winter protection. Plant the bud union deep so it will come true if it dies back to the ground. |
RE: Best place to plant R. Moschata?
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| Yep - in full agreement with Lori - find a south or west facing wall to grow the rose against (masonry will provide extra warmth) and be prepared to put up rudimentary winter protection such as horticultural fleece or even burlap. |
RE: Best place to plant R. Moschata?
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| I was thinking the same thing. Be prepared for lots of winter protection. Good luck to you, of course. Zone pushing is a popular sport around here. Rosefolly |
RE: Best place to plant R. Moschata?
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| Newbie mistake. Wonder if i could swap for a different rose with palatine. Would love the waft but dont wanna dead rosebush. I guess i could try but im new to roses so i should stick to roses that can handle zone 5. I just assumed if palatine sold it i could grow it here them being in canada. |
RE: Best place to plant R. Moschata?
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| It may well be possible since there are micro-climates in every garden. Also, Canada is not always the grim and icy north - places like Vancouver Island have a maritime climate with massive benefits from coastal warming. But yep, if you can, for certain results, I would try to swap - there are many fabulously fragranced roses which are also bone hardy - albas and damasks for example. |
RE: Best place to plant R. Moschata?
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| Thnx alot for the help. Ive been planting alot of albas and damasks. I noticed palatine has botzaris maybe i can swap. Ive already ordered or have the other ones they have. Wow this rose gardening is turning into a mental illness. LOL i guess theres alot worse addictions. |
RE: Best place to plant R. Moschata?
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| The obvious substitution is Darlow's Enigma. The fragrance is different, but it does waft, and it is hardy. The Niagara Penisula, where Palatine is located, is a strange place. It's between Lake Ontario and Lake Erie, and may be zone 7. The plant life is obviously very different from here. I remember reading a pamphlet on Presque Isle State Park (PA) on Lake Erie, that talked about certain ecosystems that were common on the Atlantic coast to the northern end of the New Jersey shore (Sandy Hook), then stopped because it got too cold. Some of these were present at Presque Isle. |
RE: Best place to plant R. Moschata?
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| The closest thing I can think of to 'R. moschata' which should be hardy for you is ''Darlow's Enigma''. Sure, the scent is different, but it still wafts through the garden. DE is more related to 'R. multiflora' but it has a similar look -- sprays of (almost) single white flowers. DE can get huge, but I don't know if that will also be true in zone 5. But in any case, it can handle a severe whacking-back every Spring, be it because of Winter-damage or to simply keep it in-bounds. :-) ~Christopher |
Here is a link that might be useful: ''Darlow's Enigma'' at HelpMeFind
RE: Best place to plant R. Moschata?
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| Thnx alot for the help. I have a darlows enigma i planted this summer. I cant wait for it to get bigger. Anyone have any thoughts on botzaris maybe i can swap. |
RE: Best place to plant R. Moschata?
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- Posted by AquaEyes 7 New Brunswick, NJ (My Page) on
Sat, Nov 30, 13 at 14:40
| I've had 'Botzaris' only a year, and it came as a band. I experienced only two flowers on it thus far. I'm not knocking it, but it isn't really something similar to 'R. moschata' to serve as a substitute. If you're just looking for another rose to plant in its place, then yes, 'Botzaris' is very nice. But if you're looking for a fragrant single white, there might be some other possibilities. One which just came to mind is 'Lyda Rose', a Hybrid Musk. I don't know how it would do in zone 5, but it's probably hardier than 'R. moschata'. Others gardening in colder zones than mine would be better able to assess that choice. :-) ~Christopher |
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