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Okay to transplant?

Posted by dallasblooms texas (My Page) on
Sat, Nov 5, 11 at 9:04

I have a Perle D'Oro I got from the Antique Rose Emporium 2 years ago that I would like to move since it is not getting enough sun. My DH worries that I'll be cutting roots to dig it up which will kill it over the winter, but I thought roots get established during winter so this is the right time to do it. Who's right?


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RE: Okay to transplant?

In your cimate zone 8, I would wait for dormancy in December, or late winter is probably slightly better. If you transplant now with leaves on, it can dehydrate; or if you defoliate first, it will grow out this month and the new growth will freeze, wasting the stored energy. BTW, there is little or no root growth during dormancy.


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  • Posted by seil z6 MI (My Page) on
    Sat, Nov 5, 11 at 11:26

I agree, wait for it to go completely dormant before moving it. Then in the spring when it wakes up it will establish it's self in the new location without any shock.


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RE: Okay to transplant?

In Pacific Coast zone 8 (and 7 and 9) fall is perfect transplanting time, but they're right about waiting for the rose to be as dormant as it gets before moving it. They never do go totally dormant here but 'not growing anymore' and cold should be fine for transplanting. Roots will continue to grow so long as the soil is warm enough, usually that means air temps above 45 degrees. If it were in a pot you could plant it since you wouldn't be disturbing the roots all that much, but digging it out of the ground is a slightly different proposition because you are cutting off some of the root system. Unless it's so puny you can get the whole root system in one shovel-full!

For us, fall transplanting starts in November and goes on until some time around March. Your timing in Dallas will vary somewhat. We had a very mild October so it's still early for transplanting here, a lot of my deciduous stuff is still green (cherries and apples and peonies) and there's new growth on some of the roses. I tell people that in our area they can plant stuff anytime the soil is neither frozen nor waterlogged, but deciduous stuff (which modern garden roses are not, but once-bloomers are) should not be disturbed when they're getting ready to drop their leaves, and hardy evergreens (which modern garden roses are, more or less) can be moved anytime they've stopped active growth. This, at least, is my experience in Pacific Coast zone 7 and 9 gardens (WA and CA).

I think I would treat Perle d'Or as a modern, essentially evergreen rose, since it's a polyantha. Not a deciduous plant, so you wouldn't be worried about disturbing it in early fall when it's translocating its food resources from the leaves to the roots in preparation of dropping leaves for winter. It's planning on hanging on to those leaves as long as possible so you won't be disrupting its storage plans when you dig it up to move it.


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What reg said for zone 8, where roses never go "completely dormant". I would transplant in Nov/Dec - here Fall / early winter is the best time to plant or transplant anything.

Jackie


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RE: Okay to transplant?

Thank you all for the info. Guess we are both right in a sense :). I will wait a little longer - maybe do it over Thanksgiving or first of Dec, because all my roses are still budding and blooming, although slowing down. The new spot is only 10 feet away from the old spot, both of which are in a sheltered area of my side yard, but the new spot doesn't have a Little Gem Magnolia blocking the sun. Hopefully this will lessen the shock too. I appreciate the expert timing!


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RE: Okay to transplant?

Dallasblooms, I was pondering the same question this past weekend. It's so gorgeous outside that it's a joy to work in the garden, and I'm anxious to get started on some changes, but I decided to make myself wait for dormancy - just to be sure.

Do you have lots of OGRs? Which is doing the best for you?


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