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could you pillar Fantin Latour if you need to?
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Posted by beaniebeagle 6b (My Page) on Wed, Nov 18, 09 at 11:51
| its in the middle of the border, but its lax growth makes it hard to fully appreciate
is this OGR worth the effort of trying to put it on a pillar?
it's about 4 years old
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RE: could you pillar Fantin Latour if you need to?
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I'm a bit surprised to hear you speak of Fantin-Latour's lax growth; my own plants of this variety are nice rounded shrubs. Possibly they benefit from being cutting-grown and on a lean diet. I remember my own plants' grafted parent, a beneficiary of summer watering, reaching ten feet across in a couple of seasons. You might just try judicious pruning, or, at worst, some moderate support. I don't think it's really meant for a pillar.
Melissa |
RE: could you pillar Fantin Latour if you need to?
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| I agree with Melissa. I don't think FL is flexible enough for a pillar. It seems to want to grow outward. Is is it possible to reposition the rose to a site where its form can be appreciated? or, prune it to fit your location. Robert |
RE: could you pillar Fantin Latour if you need to?
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| I posted last summer about my FL - with many many helpful replies - search for "lax canes" and it will come up - "What's up with this?". |
RE: could you pillar Fantin Latour if you need to?
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| I tried tying it to a pillar one year and it was a mess, put on so much new growth it outgrew the pillar by the end of summer. So this year I pruned it very hard after bloom in the hopes of keeping it down to size. "Nicely rounded shrub" it is not, for me either. |
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| My FL has the octopus thing going on, just doesn't do well in the space allotted it, tries to take over the whole bed. Hard pruning didn't help, just splays out more. Tying up didn't work either, just looked tacky or maybe I didn't know what I was doing. I can't see this variety ever being nicely rounded either. Just needs to be moved. |
RE: could you pillar Fantin Latour if you need to?
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| They had it tied to a pilar in Brooklyn a few years back it was'nt a pretty site it looked like a daddy longlegs in traction. |
RE: could you pillar Fantin Latour if you need to?
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To return to one of my original points, could it be that this rose is more manageable if it's somewhat starved? I seem to have some of the handsomer plants of 'Fantin-Latour' around, if I may judge from these posts. They aren't watered and every summer go through two to four months of drought. They're nicely shaped and I don't have to prune them much. My two best plants are 4'-5' tall by 6' wide. (The other two are growing in such poor positions that even they don't make much headway, though they live and flower.) Our soil is water-retentive. Opinions?
Melissa |
RE: could you pillar Fantin Latour if you need to?
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| Melissa, Support for your observation is found in Botanica's entry on FL: "It isn't bothered by hot, dry weather but doesn't grow as big . . . ". In the notes I took at a garden lecture a couple of years ago, I wrote that pruning FL after flowering significantly increases the following year's bloom production. I don't (yet) grow this rose, so I can't attest to the veracity of that statement. |
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