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My Eglantyne's First Bloom is not pink!
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harmonyp NorCA 9b (
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Mon, Nov 5, 12 at 12:41
| Bought a nice big 5 gallon Eglantyne a few weeks ago. Now have one bloom, and one bud. The color is a very very light apricot. Shape is exactly like the photos of Eglantyne, but not the color. Do I probably have different rose, or possibly color difference due to soil, or who knows? I notice no fragrance, but not surprising this early I guess. |
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RE: My Eglantyne's First Bloom is not pink!
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| I believe you have a different rose from Eglantyne, judging from the blooms so far. I've grown several of these roses for many years at two different locations, and the blooms have always been a very light pink, no matter the season or prevailing temperatures. There seem to be more mixups with Austins going on lately. Diane |
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| Then I'm secretly hoping it's Evelyn as that was the rose I really wanted. |
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| Evelyn and Eglantyne both smell wickedly good - I have both in my garden. I bought Eglantyne twice FOR THE SCENT alone, that's how strong it is. |
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- Posted by seil z6b MI (My Page) on
Mon, Nov 5, 12 at 13:43
| Could go either way. Rose color is very subjective sometimes to weather and growing conditions. |
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- Posted by hoovb z9 Southern CA (My Page) on
Mon, Nov 5, 12 at 13:53
RE: My Eglantyne's First Bloom is not pink!
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| Didn't come out too good, but better than nothing: 
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| Well, I never saw Eglantyne look like that -- but I also never saw Evelyn look remotely like that. Jeri |
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| That's NOT Eglantyne nor Evelyn .... I have both in my garden. I posted bush-shots of both in HMF, plus my first blooms ... check them out. |
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Wonder if l should bring her back.
Already have her in the ground. Part of me likes a surprise, but so far l'm disappointed. |
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| Hi Harmonyp: I look at your picture the 4th time, yes, it might be Eglantyne. I remember the Eglantyne at the rose park, grafted on Dr. Huey always give white blooms, except for very cold fall weather. Also Robert in the English Rose Forum said Eglantyne has light scent in England's acidic soil .... my guess is that its scent is strong only in neutral to alkaline soil, like mine and the rose park. Most potting soil is acidic with peat moss, that could alter the scent. Most roses' fragrance is weak for first bloom, and becomes stronger later. My first Eglantyne's bloom is very pink and very fragrant because I dumped tons of alfalfa meal and horse manure (high in magnesium and potassium), which deepened the bloom's color, and made the scent stronger. |
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| I still don't think it's Eglantyne, and it's definitely not Evelyn. Diane |
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| Boy that is just horrible....need my address? hehehe |
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| Funny Kippy!!! I don't usually jump to conclusions so early. And yes, my soil is on the acidic side. And I have endless horse manure and alfalfa. I should be happy it's blooming so early - I have yet to get a single bloom this year from Teasing Georgia!! Although it was a bit odd, 1/2 day earlier the bloom looked apricot, and was a very different form... Time will tell. Bottom line, the only rose I don't like is one that doesn't bloom and/or is covered with PM and blackspot. It's none of those at this time, so in the end, think all will be well. Thanks all. |
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| When I bought Le Vesuve and saw the first bloom I swore I had been sold the wrong rose. I even called Vintage and said a mistake had been made. I had to eat my words later because the appearance of that first rose was a complete anomaly. I'm not saying this is what's happened to you but it's just food for thought. Ingrid |
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| My second bud is starting to open, and it is clearly light apricot. I'm quite sure it isn't Eglantyne. But, I'll take the cup is half full philosophy, and consider it my "surprise". If it is kind enough to flush for me in spring, I'll take more mature photos. I think I detect a light fragrance. Thanks. |
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| I agree with Ingrid 100%. I made a fool out of myself TWICE with 2 nurseries! The nurseries were right, I was wrong. Young blooms can be VERY LIGHT in color. Lilian Austin were light pink blooms 1st year, then it got progressively darker. Soil chemistry plays a role: The rose park's Abraham Darby is always whitish beige, and never pink. Their Eglantyne is white for the past years, and only pink when the temp. is below 50's. The scent is light for the first blooms. My Heirloom rose smelled nothing for the first few blooms, then the scent showed up later. Same with Jacques Cartier, people rave about its scent, but it was light, almost none for the 1st bloom. Looking at your picture of Eglantyne again, and based on the leaves alone, it's Eglantyne. My gallon-size own-root Eglantyne was almost thornless, then it got thornier later. There's hope for my Crown Princess Mag - I put up with its beige color for the 1st year, knowing that its blooms will get darker the 2nd year. |
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| My DAs color has been variable as well. Sometimes you can match the thorns or leaves with a mature plant at a public garden. It sure is vexing though when you don't know if you have the right plant. I have a semi double orange that I got two different years from J&P that was supposed to be Heaven on Earth. People said just wait, it will change. Nope. Same runty orange boobyprize from both plants 3 years later in all sorts of weather. I'm still going to find that rose one of these days. |
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| I'm not sure about that bloom of yours, from the photo, but let me tell you something interesting. Eglantyne has a sport. Mine sported and I talked to a man in Australia who had his sport the same. Some of my cuttings have been rooted by Vintage and they stay true to the sport. Mine will bloom mostly white but when the temperature is cool it will have a light apricot center. I'm planning on registering it. Another thing is that Eglantyne looks different from many Austins by it's canes. If i get a chance later today I'll take a photo of them. |
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