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| This morning I came across a photo (Rose Notes) of Renae with Buff Beauty. I WANT that look. The spot where they would go is in shade, gets virtually no sun in winter as the trees to the north block it out. As the sun gets higher it gets some afternoon sun, and then in summer it gets a reasonable amount. It's next to a fenceline, and they'd ideally scramble along it. I see they both are ok in shade. I also looked at Lavender Lassie, which HMF says is ok for shade. Cornelia grows nearby, but is in a sunnier spot, and is doing well. Do you think this would be enough for them to do well? And which would you choose, LL or Renae? I'd also welcome other suggestions. I forgot to add my climate. Can anyone help me? Does Sydney fit one of the US zones? I'm near the coast, and temps range from around 46F min in winter to 95F max in summer, with occasional days over 104F. It's often humid for around 6 months of the year. |
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| I don't think it is so much that it is "OK" to plant them in the shade, but more that those roses tolerate partial shade. But even saying that, they may not bloom too well and may be more susceptible to BS disease in part shade. I grow Buff Beauty (and she is a beauty) in part shade--couple hours shade mid-day (hottest sun) but direct sun for a couple hours before that and direct sun for a couple hours after that and partial sun the rest of the time. It does OK--quite showy when it blooms, but it rests longer than I like between blooming cycles. Don't know if more sun would cure it of that problem or not, since I've never grown it anywhere else, but I do have some other roses that got moved to sunnier spots and it was great how they improved in blooming and BS-resistance. Perhaps some other gardeners have had different experiences with these roses. Let's see. Kate |
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- Posted by poorbutroserich none (My Page) on Mon, Nov 18, 13 at 17:42
| Titian, I live in the Southeast US. Serious humidity with lower winter temps and similar to higher summer temps. No coastal breeze, however, and I know that makes a difference. I grow LL. For some reason when I bought her I thought she had "good repeat" but she doesn't for me here (although she is just 4 years old). She was in a great deal of afternoon sun. I have BB but she just came this autumn. Gorgeous rose. Have you looked at Crepuscule? Amazing. Susan |
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| Dublinbay, yes it was a loose use of 'ok'. I realise there would be less flowers, but one (or both) could scramble up the fence, which comes down over a rock outcrop, and get more sun, once they were established. But your BB would get a lot more sun than my spot gets to start off with. Hi Susan. I'm disappointed to hear about LL, as I thought from the write-ups that she'd repeat well. This, amongst many other things, is what is so good about this forum. You get the truth! I have Crepescule, and I've loved her previously, but oddly, here the flowers are a rather mustard yellow most of the year. I grow her as a shrub, which I did before, and it made a wonderful mounding shape, with lovely leaf colours, and looked great even when not in bloom. But here, even her foliage is a bit sparse, and the blooms burn a bit and stay on the bush. I'll give her another year, but...... As we're in such similar climates, would you mind telling me which roses have done well for you? |
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