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Posted by luxrosa richmond, ca (My Page) on
Sat, Nov 5, 11 at 17:55

I've loved 'Susan Louise' ever since meeting her, I thought it a rosebush fit for a fairy tale, the bush grown with a bare trunk like a tree, up to a canopy spreading 18 feet wide. Those lovely huge pink and hundreds if not thousands of pink and cream roses dangling downwards facing the viewer, from a canopy filled with an abundance of healthy leaves. It is altogether an impressive plant. I only wish Susan Louise had a few more petals to fill out her blooms, and my desire for this was so strong that I decided to learn to hybridize roses with the intention of accomplishing this. Recently I learned that a pink Hybrid Gigantea that re-blooms already exists and from photos it appears fuller than Susan Louise. I had not thought to find such a rose under a Large Flowered Climber list at a nursery, but there it was. I wouldn't have looked for it at all but saw the 'Emmanuella de Mouchy" Hybrid Gigantea listed on a list for a charity auction near San Diego.

'Emmanuella de Mouchy'
bred in France by Paul Nabbonand
introduced in 1922
I have not seen this rose in person, but I do love the photos of the bloom at helpmefind.com
More petals than Susan Louise, but none of the photos show the plant, other than a few leaves. I'm not a person who grow a rose for the beauty of its blooms unless the plant is attractive.

Emmanuella de Mouchy was bred from
R.gigantea X Lady Waterhouse which makes her
1/2 wild rose, plus 25% H.T. plus 25% Noisette.

I've been looking for a pink Tea-Noisette
for several years and it took until Oct. 2011 for me to become aware of 'Emmanuel de Mouchy' which, by happy fate I saw was listed at a charity auction near San Diego and looked up its breeding profile.
at one nursery is sold as a Large Flowered Climber, and on helpmefind.com it is listed as a Hybrid Gigantea.
Can anyone please tell me if it;
-is fragrant?
-is tender to cold?
-re-blooms as often as most Tea-Noisettes?
where I live Tea-Noisettes reliably produce a bloom cycle in Spring, Summer and Autumn and if dead-headed will re-bloom more often.
Thanks, Lux
P.S.
'Emmanuella de Mouchy' intrigues me because it was bred from crossing a wild rose,R. gigantea with
'Lady Waterlow' which was bred from crossing a Hybrid Tea with a Noisette. This would make Emmanuella de Mouchy a close cousin of the Tea-Noisette, and I wonder if the rose might be better served by being sold under that group name. It took me more than 5 years to find that Emmanuella de Mouchy existed, for I've been searching for a Pink Tea-Noisette or a rose like it, under Teas and Tea-Noisette and climbing Tea rose lists at nurseries.

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I didn't know it was available anywhere!
No, sorry. Never seen it, though I remember the late Co. Mel Hulse speculating about it.

Jeri

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