Return to the Antique Roses Forum
| Post a Follow-Up
One White Once-Bloomer
| | |
Posted by
chris209 Z7a LI, NY (
My Page) on
Fri, Nov 8, 13 at 18:14
After seeing Lynnette's beautiful picture of Princesse de Lamballe, I realized I need a white once-bloomer to add to my collection. I have a newly planted bed containing Belle Isis, Marianne, Nuits de Young, Charles de Mills and Tuscany Superb. I've considered Madame Plantier and Madame Hardy, and I'm very tempted by the above mentioned rose, but which one? I'm sure there are other good ones I haven't listed. Suggestions and enabling are appreciated!
-Chris |
Follow-Up Postings:
RE: One White Once-Bloomer
| | |
| Armide is a favourite of mine. Should stay around 4 feet but when budded onto multiflora can get taller. Not a strong scent just smells like a rose. |
RE: One White Once-Bloomer
| | |
| Ooops. Mustn't forget the Damask Botzaris. You get the wonderful Damask fragrance with this white. Grows tall and upright in my garden. |
RE: One White Once-Bloomer
| | |
| Leda is not totally white but an interesting rose. Tends to grow in width rather than height in the PNW. Many blooms and not all have the same amount of rose red around the edges of the flowers. Some are nearly white while others a deep rose red but the buds are all a nice red colour. |
RE: One White Once-Bloomer
| | |
| Comptesse de Lacepede is a Gallica cross which grows tall and then bends over at the top. |
RE: One White Once-Bloomer
| | |
| Blanchfleur makes a large Centifolia bush with a fairly strong fragrance. The problem with some of these OGRs, they may be hard to find a nursery that carries them. |
RE: One White Once-Bloomer
| | |
| Lynette- I can't grow any of the roses you mentioned here in SoCal, but thank you for the beautiful photos. Blanchefleur is in my personal top ten most beautiful blooms and I always enjoy seeing it. Sorry I can't help you with practical info regarding once-bloomers Chris, but I would plant Madame Hardy and Blanchefleur in a heart beat if I could. Jay |
RE: One White Once-Bloomer
| | |
| 'Alba Maxima' is great for a tall, white-flowered once-bloomer. An added bonus is the foliage, which is a nice dark blue-green. It'd be great as a "wilder" shrub, like where you'd plant a big lilac. And it'd make a nice living-trellis for a type-2 or type-3 clematis once it's grown for a few years. If you choose the former, you won't really have to worry about pruning, and you'll get the first clematis flush coinciding with the rose, the second coming in late Summer. If you choose the latter, just prune the clematis low on the rose in Spring, wait a couple weeks for the snipped vines above to dry up, and just pull them out. Type-3 will bloom after the rose and continue through most of the Summer. :-) ~Christopher |
Here is a link that might be useful: 'Alba Maxima' at HelpMeFind
RE: One White Once-Bloomer
| | |
| Oh no! I was hoping to narrow things down :) What a lovely menu of choices. I have a lot to think about. Any word on the blackspot resistance of these roses? |
RE: One White Once-Bloomer
| | |
| and Christopher, thank you for the good companion planting suggestions! Great practical advice. When my roses are bigger I would love to incorporate more clematis growing among them. I used to have a New Dawn with a purple flowered clematis (forget the name), and while I probably should have put more thought into the type of clematis, the light pink of the New Dawn with the purple was beautiful. |
RE: One White Once-Bloomer
| | |
| I see all the suggestions are doubles... how about the single Alba Semi Plena? I have no experience with it but it was suggested to me. SCG |
RE: One White Once-Bloomer
| | |
| Thank you for showing us your once-bloomers. I had no idea they were so beautiful--truly wonderful! Kate |
RE: One White Once-Bloomer
| | |
One that hasn't been mentioned yet that I like a lot is 'Mme. Zoetmans'. This one is rather Gallica-like in appearance, low-growing, upright, and suckering; bristly rather than thorny, which I appreciate, and with pretty foliage. The flowers are very beautiful, and highly fragrant. All the roses mentioned and shown here are lovely, this is just one more.
Hear, hear, for Kate's comment, and Lynnette, thanks for all the wonderful photos of old roses you've been posting lately. I love the once-flowering old roses, and I'm glad you're spreading the word about them.
Melissa |
RE: One White Once-Bloomer
| | |
or, the fabulous and outstandingly healthy Aimee Vibert......
or runaway deliciousness of Splendens, a lovely Ayreshire scrambler |
RE: One White Once-Bloomer
| | |
| Years ago I helped care for some roses at a historical site. They had a white OGR, 'Madame Legras de St. Germain', that I really liked & would be something to consider also. |
Here is a link that might be useful: MLdSG on hmf.com
RE: One White Once-Bloomer
| | |
Yes, Madame Legras de St. Germain sure does look like a beauty! It might be a little too large of a rose for me however. It' so tough to pick just one. I'm leaning towards Leda at the moment. Something about that little touch of pink on the edges makes it so special.
I'm really feeling the loss of Vintage Gardens currently, as it appears to be the lone source for many of these roses. |
RE: One White Once-Bloomer
| | |
- Posted by AquaEyes 7 New Brunswick, NJ (My Page) on
Mon, Nov 11, 13 at 17:23
| One thing about 'Leda' -- I've heard it suckers like a Gallica, so either get it grafted or plant it where that won't be a problem. I wanted it as well, but it wasn't available when I was making my orders last year, and I got 'Botzaris' instead. Later, I learned that I probably lucked out with what I got, since 'Botzaris' tends to stay-put when on its own roots. Now that another small area for planting has opened up, I might just have a spot for 'Leda' -- bordered by grass and against the house, any excess suckers will get eaten by the lawn mower. :-) ~Christopher |
RE: One White Once-Bloomer
| | |
Thanks for the tip Christopher! Luckily Pickering carries Leda. They also carry Botzaris... How does it do for you in NJ?
-Chris |
RE: One White Once-Bloomer
| | |
- Posted by AquaEyes 7 New Brunswick, NJ (My Page) on
Mon, Nov 11, 13 at 20:26
| This is a brand-new garden for me. Everything was planted only this year. I'll let you know next year how things do. My advice was based on what I've learned from research, or what I grew in previous gardens. This is my first time with 'Botzaris' but I did plant 'Alba Maxima' in a little community garden back in Buffalo. I never got to see 'Leda' in-person. :-) ~Christopher |
RE: One White Once-Bloomer
| | |
- Posted by AquaEyes 7 New Brunswick, NJ (My Page) on
Wed, Nov 13, 13 at 0:54
| Oh, one other suggestion -- you MUST get the single-flowered form of 'Rosa moschata'. Its small, five-petaled flowers are white, come in clusters, and smell strongly of cloves. It will probably start blooming for you when the old European once-bloomers have finished, and keep going until frost. Look it up by searching for it here, and on HelpMeFind. :-) ~Christopher |
RE: One White Once-Bloomer
| | |
| If you like pink borders, here is Hebe's Lip. It's not a pure white, but more of an ivory. 
|
RE: One White Once-Bloomer
| | |
| The pictures and descriptions here are so fantastic I think I need to try a few more whites. :-) I can vouch for Blanchefleur, Maxima, Leda, and Semi-plena as wonderful roses. Leda is very mannerly in her suckering own-root and is not a problem containing like many gallicas. I think I need Botzaris and Armide. |
RE: One White Once-Bloomer
| | |
| I think I would like to visit Lynettes garden in spring.....(and then off to Northland Rosarium) |
RE: One White Once-Bloomer
| | |
| Each of these roses is so incredibly beautiful. Thanks for all the wonderful suggestions. I recently bought a home with a 1/2 acre yard. I seemed limitless at the time, but is filling up all too quickly! |
RE: One White Once-Bloomer
| | |
Chris, just get rid of the grass. It's easy.
Melissa
P.S. My house in Washington state was on a 1/6 acre lot. By the time I moved I had about 95 roses there, including many old roses, quite a few them hefty plants. |
RE: One White Once-Bloomer
| | |
| I think the double white moss rose at its peak is incredibly beautiful; it used to grow at the Brooklyn Botanic Garden. That was Rosa centifolia muscosa alba, "White Bath". I wish I had room for it. On a thread parallel to this, however, someone has proposed the double scots rose, whose beautifully scented cupped flowers are of modest size, and this undoubtedly takes the cake because of the way they are set amid its ferny leaves! But the Scots rose blooms so early one could class it among the spring shrubs and also plant Alba semi-plena, the White Rose of York, a large shrub. This was the rose whose flower Dante compared to a vision of the blessed souls in heaven ranged about God (the radiant center of gold). All the other ones mentioned previously on this thread are virtually as good. So I am sorry can't help you narrow it down to one. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Double Scotch on
RE: One White Once-Bloomer
| | |
- Posted by luxrosa s.f. bay area, ca (My Page) on
Sat, Nov 16, 13 at 22:35
| For sources: Horitco.com ships to the U.S from Canada and I've been happy with all the roses I've bought from them, except for one wrong rose.
In stock this week are:
Alba Semi-Plena
M. L. de St. Germain
and Suaveolens
and Botzaris I love Alba Semi-Plena best of all white once bloomers because when it opens it shows a lovely boss of golden stamens, and it has the wonderful luxurious blue-green foliage as Maxima, and the scent is heavenly!, though light.
Pickeringnurseries.com is also in Canada, and they have:
Alba Semi Plena (believed to be the white 'Rose of York' and grown in England since the late 1400's, or earlier.
Alba Maxima ; the 'Jacobite Rose' worn by supporters
of Bonnie Prince Charlie. M.L. de St. Germain Mme. Plantier
and Suaveolens...which is the one rose listed here that I have never seen or smelled, so I cannot comment on it. I adore R. moschata, and a real bonus is that it blooms steadily from mid-July through early November where I live, near San Francisco. I think Palantine of canada sells a few once bloomers too. Good luck finding white roses,
they are my favorite color of rose. Luxrosa |
Post a Follow-Up
Please Note: Only registered members are able to post messages to this forum. If you are a member, please log in.
If you aren't yet a member, join now!
Return to the Antique Roses Forum
Information about Posting
- You must be logged in to post a message. Once you are logged in, a posting window will appear at the bottom of the messages. If you are not a member, please register for an account.
- Please review our Rules of Play
before posting.
- Posting is a two-step process. Once you have composed your message, you
will be taken to the preview page. You will then have a chance to review your
post, make changes and upload photos.
- After posting your message, you may need to refresh the forum page in
order to see it.
- Before posting copyrighted material, please read about Copyright and Fair Use.
- We have a strict no-advertising
policy!
- If you would like to practice posting or uploading photos, please visit
our Test forum.
- If you need assistance, please Contact Us and we
will be happy to help.
Learn more about in-text links on this page here
