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which rose is cecile brunner ? and mysterious china rose

nothingness
9 years ago

Hello
I want cecile brunner to plant in my garden.
after last time I ask about my rose is cecile brunner?
in the last it is noisette rose

I found have various rose which difference but use name cecile brunner in my country.
I wonder which rose is cecile brunner
and if it isn't real name is?

and I want know name of this china rose
It hard to find until now I can't find another tree

cecile brunner 1
I have not this rose in my garden but it so beautiful

Comments (21)

  • nothingness
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    cecile brunner1

  • nothingness
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    cecile brunner 2
    it is climber

  • nothingness
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    cecile brunner 2

  • nothingness
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    no name china rose

  • nothingness
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    no name china rose 2

    This post was edited by nothingness on Thu, Dec 25, 14 at 4:16

  • nothingness
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    and last this rose which not cecile brunner
    but it is noisette rose from my ask for real name before

    This post was edited by nothingness on Thu, Dec 25, 14 at 4:49

  • ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9
    9 years ago

    Cecile Brunner 1 I would say is definitely not Cecile Brunner, but a very lovely rose.

    Cecile Brunner 2 seems to me to be the genuine CB although I cannot be 100% certain.

    I'm not familiar with the other roses, I'm afraid.

    Ingrid

  • nothingness
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    Thank you very much for your help Ingrid_vc

    after I find information about this rose
    I found cecile brunner have various sport
    even cl.cecile brunner have sport of australia with america

    I know name of rose in my country rather pick at random from real name
    cecile brunner 2 someone call it marie pavie

    as this rose from my ask before
    it unclear between cecile brunner with marie pavie

  • HoosierBob SW Indiana Zone 5
    9 years ago

    Just a guess here...could 'no name china rose 2' be Roulettii?

    Bob

  • jerijen
    9 years ago

    Bob could be right. That could be Rouletii.

    #1 photo -- the white rose that is not Cecile Brunner -- could perhaps be WHITE Cecile Brunner? (See below)

    Jeri

  • ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9
    9 years ago

    My Marie Pavie is virtually thornless and has considerably fewer petals than Cecile Brunner, and is also lighter in color. The pink bud in the picture where you e-mailed me bac looks exactly like the buds on my Marie Pavie. Therefore, if there are no thorns, there are fewer petals and the rose is almost white it is not Cecile Brunner, and also not White Cecile Brunner, which you can see has a lot more petals, but it could very possibly be Marie Pavie.

    Ingrid

  • nothingness
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    thank you very much for your help

    I'm sorry for late my sister buy new note book and I must prepare system in her new notebook several days

    cecile brunner 1
    almost owner say to it similar china rose
    but I wonder if it is cecile brunner why full bloom
    look like new dawn and I think It similar with hybrid tea too
    I wonder Cecile Brunner 2 more now it real ?
    but I love it althought It wrong

    my unclear rose from my question before have thorn
    but open bloom is similar cecile brunner
    I barely know real marie pavie have no thorn now
    (and Cecile Brunner 2 have thorn too)

    china rose I think it look like rouletti but tree is not miniature
    It medium bush smaller my velentine by little now
    but I use small pot to cultivate it so real size may be bigger this
    may be equal valentine or may be over valentine

    this unclear rose open bloom similar cecile brunner
    in cold weather for short time
    (regular weather very hot always)
    It beautiful ?
    (almost It very hot weather near all year)

  • nothingness
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    and This CB2 today in cold weather
    (my country in winter now but have not snow)
    I love it now although It may be not real cecile brunner

  • nothingness
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    Cecile Brunner 2 pic 2

  • nothingness
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    pic 3

  • nothingness
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    pic 4

  • nothingness
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    pic 5

  • nothingness
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    and last pic my unclear rose from my before question
    open bloom similar with cecile brunner
    but when full bloom it similar with noisette
    (someone told me it is noisette rose)

  • nothingness
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    May I ask for question more ?
    My doubt still not clear

    1.If CB1 not cecile brunner I wonder It may be MarchenKonigin ?

    2. is CB2 real cl. cecile brunner ? (I add pic more about it)

    3. china rose look like rouletti but size is bigger rouletti
    is it rouletti ?

    Thank You Very Much

  • ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9
    9 years ago

    Marchenkoenigin is a hybrid tea and seems to have stiffer petals than what I remember of your no. 1 rose.

    No. 2 in my opinion is definitely Cecile Brunner, and I seem to remember that other posters are of the same opinion.

    The rose that is larger than roulettii may possibly be the noisette bougainville. I grew this rose at one time and it has small, purplish blooms.

    Ingrid

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