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| Hi, please recommend climbers for an arbor that is 8.5' X 2' deep. I actually have 3 such arbors and would like to grow 6 climbers up them. I live in Midwest 5b, with no reliable snow cover, and heavy BLACKSPOT in the summer. Would prefer full old-fashioned flowers, very fragrant, no whites, and no singles. Thanks. |
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| I am also in blackspot country. I have a few climber/ramblers that work for me. Henry Kelsey - only get one good bloom out of him - not fragrant though No blackspot on any of these so far. Just planted Viking Queen last summer so I can't say for sure how she'll do with our winter, but she didn't have any blackspot last summer and she was next to a rose that is a blackspot magnet (and is a future shovel-prune contender). |
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| 'Quadra' may be the most blackspot-resistant repeating hardy climber. 'New Dawn' is still one of the best if you want a rampant grower. |
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- Posted by gardenerzone4 (My Page) on Fri, Dec 28, 12 at 17:32
| Thank you for the recommendations so far. I grew Viking Queen once--she is definitely very hardy and BS resistant, a tough rose. I've always been intrigued by Constance Spry, but haven't gone for it b/c she's a once bloomer. On my list of possibilities, I have mainly modern climbers, like the Kordes climbers Jasmina, Rosanna, and Aloha Hawaii, primarily for their BS resistance ratings on the Kordes website. I also have St. Swithun, Amadeus, and Quadra on my list. But then I saw the recommendations that north_ca_rose got for an arbor rose in CA, and I wondered if any of these would be hardy enough to grow in Midwest 5b. Please advise: http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/load/rosesant/msg0717171119593.htm l Renae HMF has these listed as mostly Zone 6b and up. I grow HTs and they're mostly Zone 6 and up too, but after hard winters, they do end up sprouting from snow or ground level. While that's OK for modern shrubs, that wouldn't be ideal for a climber. I'd like for the climber to retain cane through winter. Would any of the ones recommended for north_CA_rose also work for me? |
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| I hate to say it, but many of the roses on that list will not last long in a Zone 5b climate, especially not 'Renae', 'Annie Laurie McDowell', 'Lamarque', or 'Reve d'Or'. I expect 'Crepuscule' would be severely challenged in your climate also. These are all warm climate plants that suffer the minute their wood is exposed to anything more than a mild freeze. They are unlikely to ever grow large enough to be climbers. You would be wise to select from the Kordes climbers, and the hardy Canadian Explorer series. 'Darlow's Enigma' is potentially good for you also. |
This post was edited by trospero on Fri, Dec 28, 12 at 22:06
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| Trospero offers expert advice. I believe 'Clair Matin' is considered OK for zone 5b, at least I know that mad_gallica had it for a while in upstate New York. CM is a great rose, unsurpassed among large shrubs for heavy bloom and rapid repeat. It will climb some but doesn't make a lot of long basals, at least not for me. |
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- Posted by mad_gallica Z5 Eastern NY (My Page) on Sat, Dec 29, 12 at 12:26
| At this point, Clair Matin is more of a large shrub than a climber. It is also one of the most blackspot prone roses still in my garden. Then it also doesn't at all fit the desired description. |
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| The mini climber Jeanne La Joie is a healthy, hardy, vigorous grower here. |
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| 'Aloha Hawaii' suffers minimal cane damage for me and is glorious in the Spring, but has sporadic repeat blooming. But that Spring blooming is glorious and the colors are like a beautiful sunset. In its' third year, it has clamored up a 10' tall homemade pergola. It's a pretty vigorous grower. |
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- Posted by professorroush 6A (My Page) on Sat, Jan 5, 13 at 12:00
| Having lived in the same area until the Zones moved north, I'd suggest New Dawn needs to be on your list and perhaps Zephirine Drouhin (although the latter is really more of a pillar rose). You might also consider many of the old ramblers...Dorthy Perkins comes to mind. Other than that, tprospero's suggestion of the Canadians is excellent...John Davis, Henry Kelsey, etc. The Kordes rose Illusion is a nice red, but has wicked thorns. |
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