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| Sometimes reading on here I get intimidated - so many folks are ripping out "non-performers", worrying about color wheels, counting the blooms on their roses, disbudding hundreds of bushes, constantly digging up roses and moving them around their gardens, WHEW! I tend to just let things develop, and see what happens with the roses, and also I let the volunteer flowers (like Valerian, forget-me-nots, yellow oxalis, etc) stay if they are pretty and not in the way - too lazy to go to all of the trouble to eradicate them! Of course, it is great if you have the time and energy to continually be trying to attain perfection, but not me. I inherited an old garden full of old roses which had survived decades of neglect - I figured that the fragile ones had all died, and I was left with the "keepers". So, once I figured out what kinds of roses had survived, I planted more of those, and so far it has worked out OK. Luckily for me I live in a very benign climate, and the roses do not need any sort of "Winter protection". Also, I do not pick up every leaf that falls according to what you are supposed to do, so they get a lot of natural mulch (and we do add some). I tend to be a collector, and to anthropomorphize plants (as well as the wild animals in the garden). My concerns about roses and other plants tend to be on the "Is it happy? If not, what can I do to help the poor thing?" side, instead of the "Does it make me happy - if not it is GONE" side of gardening. Chacun a son gout, of course, which is what makes gardening (and life) interesting! So, I will continue to enjoy my overgrown, flourishing, not color coordinated (except that most of my old roses are of soft colors), not perfect garden. Jackie |
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| Jackie, from every picture I've seen of your garden, and especially the one here, your garden is already perfect. In fact, I'd say it's a dream garden. I'm guessing that you live in a fairly benign climate without too many extremes. I garden in a heat trap that kills a lot of roses or makes them too unsatisfactory to keep, so getting rid of roses, disbudding to make the bushes more leafy so they can withstand the heat, and lots of water and fertilizing are a necessity if I want to have a garden that is at least partially satisfying to me. I'm also a lazy gardener, more from necessity than choice, which is why I don't tolerate roses that have to be pampered, except for a few early hybrid teas like Leonie's Appoline, La France and Souvenir de President Carnot. Starting out with a clean slate with no garden at all, only grass, I really didn't know what would do well here. A lot of things didn't. Adding more of the plants that were already doing well was a very wise choice on your part. You also have a beautiful house and architectural features like the fence in the picture which really enhance the overall picture. I love the colors and composition of your garden. You should be very proud. Ingrid |
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| Jackie - first, probably redundant to say what a stunning garden you have... I'm finding my garden is at its best is when I stay the heck out of it. I took the summer off this year - couldn't stand the heat, and just decided to let the garden recover from my digging up most of my roses to cage them so they could survive the gophers. I had this sense of "almost giving up" from the gophers, and just needed a breather. All I did was keep the water flowing. In fall my garden was SO happy. No pruning, fertilizing, weeding, preening, primping, nothing. And it was in heaven. It's like the garden is a somewhat living entity of it's own, and totality needed a break from my constant fussing. I'm taking a lesson learned from this past summer. I can't keep myself from cutting constantly to bring in bouquets to work - but otherise, it's getting water. I'll fertilize and mulch and weed in spring, and do the big Feb. prune. Once upon a time I cleaned up after pruning - now the cut pieces stay put for mulch. I don't ever spray. This coming year I'm definitely going to take the route of less work for me, happier garden. I truly believe that mother nature is a lot smarter than we are, if we keep conditions for her right and get out of her way. |
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- Posted by sherryocala 9A Florida (My Page) on Sat, Dec 8, 12 at 12:46
| Jackie, I know for sure that you're not fishing for compliments, but I'll gladly give you a huge one. What a gorgeous scene that photo is. You have been blessed with inheriting the labors of your forebears. You received in tact (mostly) a fruitful garden. What bliss! We're all lazy and wish we had such an inheritance. Maybe due to your climate and soil, etc, even the original gardeners didn't have to work extra hard to make their garden successful. So I understand how you might think we're all just making extra work for ourselves - busy work? But alas, mostly, we're breaking new ground literally and learning as we go, making mistakes that have to be fixed, and choosing plants based on glamor photos that don't like they're new homes. I think it would be wonderful if you would post regularly about your garden strolls through your mature, healthy near-perfect garden with details about how you didn't exert yourself at all except to carry your parasol for sun protection. I think we would all like to read about your gardening life as a way of escape like a romance novel complete with photos. We could live vicariously through you and your exquisitely colored garden. We probably need at least a monthly fix, maybe even bi-weekly or weekly. I hope you'll consider this since I am sure I will never have that experience in my garden - although I only have a few more roses to plant either in the ground or pots, and some daylilies, and one more bed to clean out, and the pond to finish, and then... I do so love your garden, Jackie. Sherry. |
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| Jackie I haven't been around here terribly long, but certainly long enough to see you've posted, see there is doohickey that tells me there is a picture in the post and to think, "Oh goody!" I'm not sure which posts I love more--the shots of the garden or the ones where the mysteries of an unknown rose is revealed. I aspire to be a lazy gardener too--you just do it so much better! |
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| Your garden is beautiful, Jackie, and "perfect" in that it pleases you. That's all that matters. I don't think that there's any one kind of garden that is the "perfect" look anyway. We each garden in the manner that suits our own needs and wants and you've found yours. I tend to be a lazy gardener too. I never amend much, rarely spray, fertilize once in a while, weeds, eh, when I get to them, etc. I'm slow to dig out under performers and try to save most everything if I can. I take in strays and unwanted plants all the time too, soft hearted sap that I am. There is certainly NO color scheme, lol! I plant things as I find them where ever I can find room for them. Nature never plants things in a "scheme" so I don't either. I like my gardens to look big and blousy and full of color and interest. I hate super neat little spaced plant blobs with nothing around them but expanses of some kind of mulch like you see in "landscaped" places. It always looks so sterile and mechanical to me. Gardens should never look sterile! I always try to look at my garden from across the street. If it looks pleasing from there I'm happy because that's the view most people get as they pass by. Up close and personal I'm happy with what I have achieved and that's all that counts! |
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- Posted by Kippy-the-Hippy 10 Sunset 24 (My Page) on Sat, Dec 8, 12 at 14:30
| I am lazy gardener!! Or maybe just a scatter-brained one. Or an example of an adhd gardener with far too many ideas and projects in mind. Straight lines, 90 degree angled corners, perfectly spaced plants, color correct, neat, tidy and other gardeners aspirations do not match my reality. An old house needing lots of work, aging parent, college aged kids that live at home, a real job, a part-time job and a giant garden means nothing is going to look "perfect" beyond a few small square feet at one time and only while I am making them "perfect". On the other hand, if you saw where I started, where I am now, the size of the "work crew and average age" and the lack of dollars to spend, I LOVE what we have done! And a 120+ year old house does not have anything straight, level or plum anyway so the garden would look out of balance if it did. I love a nice walk through a formal garden but have no desire to own one. And maybe it is that Danish sensibility, or the lack of funds, but I have a hard time spending good money on things to add to my dirt. We make our own mulch, pick up free manure and yes, buy a couple of bags of special planting soil and this year some bark too. But overall, if I have to remake my soil by buying out the garden departments, I am trying to plant the wrong things. I do have some water thirsty roses, of course they are also planted where they have access to "used" water as well so the hope is in the future they use those sources and not the expensive "new" water. And I will occasionally move a plant, but digging up a perfectly good plant to examine roots is not something I have any interest in. Like wise, if the plant is not happy outside in the yard 90% of the year and needs to be brought inside, I don't know that I would purchase it. We do have some hot days and a few days of frost, but a bit of water or a sheet is about as far as I am going for summer or winter special care. Someday, maybe that lake house will be built and in need of some very hardy plants, but I fully intend to only purchase local natives, freeze hardy roses and from local nurseries because that lot is for fun and enjoyment and not serious gardening. I know I am spoiled living where winter is the busy garden season. I do not know how some of you do it. But I think having the winter to plan gardening helps. I think we spend the summer planning our winter garden work. (both hoping for rain and hoping the rain soaks in fast so we don't compact our soil and can get back out there) |
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- Posted by Strawberryhill 5a IL (My Page) on Sat, Dec 8, 12 at 15:47
| I'm not a lazy gardener, I'm a thrifty one. My climate is harsh for roses, I can't afford to be lazy. I lost over $20 on Eglantyne that died last winter in zone 5a, so I dig roses up to move them closer to the house for winter protection. And if their roots are NOT big enough to survive minus 20 degrees winter, they'll go inside the garage. My soil is rock hard clay, rather than fluffy. If I don't dig them up to see how can I fix the soil for maximum root growth, I'll lose BIG MONEY like my neighbor who lost the entire bed of Hybrid Teas grafted on Dr. Huey over a harsh winter. I work hard for the 1st year so I can be lazy on the long run: I make the best holes so I don't have to water my roses like my bed of 6 landscape shrubs ... which I haven't watered for the past decade. My motto is: work hard for the 1st year, dig the best holes, grow the biggest rootball for winter survival, so I don't have to water them.
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- Posted by jacqueline3 9CA (My Page) on Sat, Dec 8, 12 at 16:29
| I do realize that I am very lucky re climate, and the fact that the garden I inherited has been a well loved and worked on garden since 1905. Here is a picture of a scene that I have had NOTHING to do with - the rose is my old old Anna Olivier, which is rampaging through a forest of overgrown garden "bushes" and volunteer, now mature, privet trees. The rhododendron was there when we moved in too - from the delicate & airy looks of the blossoms, I am guessing it was hybridized before the modern ones with the huge flower clusters were invented. I love both of these plants - I do not think the color combination was an accident. The funny thing is that the only place you can see this scene is from our next door neighbor's side windows - I had to practically straddle the short fence between our yards to take this picture. Jackie |
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| Hmmmm, I was going to chime in and claim to be a lazy gardener too but a more honest appraisal is that I am a bit more in the Kippy mode (short attention span, far too many projects). Claiming idleness tends to be my default position to account for the vast number of homeless plants and seemingly empty pots and general chaos - although the ever present weeds can often do sterling camouflage duties.There is an enormous gap between the reality and the fantasy garden in my head and I am definitely a jack of all trades, master of none. Moreover, I suspect that organisation is the answer instead of ineffectual wafting about (for hours!) but that train passed me by a long time ago. No doubt having a characterful old house and a mature plot has been advantageous, Jacqueline, but I think we can all see that such results(outstanding) do not come from the odd wave of a watering can and a quick poke of the secateurs, regardless of the input from previous generations. Still, my dear, modesty is a charming trait........... |
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- Posted by sherryocala 9A Florida (My Page) on Sat, Dec 8, 12 at 19:29
| *** Still, my dear, modesty is a charming trait........... Love it, Campanula!! Sherry |
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| My friend, I have seen your garden. People work very, very hard to achieve the tousled riot of beauty it embodies. You may not have created it new, but that is exactly the point. It takes generations to get a garden to the state yours is in. And you constantly freshen it, making the best of the treasure that has come into your hands. I for one am glad you are not the kind of gardener who must make everything over into your own image. Such gardeners should not have established old gardens entrusted to their care. Rosefolly |
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- Posted by melissa_thefarm NItaly (My Page) on Sun, Dec 9, 12 at 1:32
| I agree with every word that has been said here so far. I too am in the camp of the lazy gardeners, although at the moment DH and I are killing ourselves planting 78 bare root roses during a cold spell. So, as Strawberryhill says, at times one works very hard so as to be lazy later on, at least, relatively lazy. I'm freshly motivated to prepare good holes, after a few years of seeing the results of poor soil preparation; fortunately rotted hay works, and is locally available, abundant, and cheap. I'm also, definitely, in the camp of the frugal gardeners, both out of conviction and as a matter of practical necessity. I'm always trying to get my plants to do my weed control for me, but still find myself yanking Bermuda grass and nettles and shearing annual grass; on the other hand, once I do get going on maintenance, I find it goes fast. I have my problem areas in the garden, for example the Damask bed and box beds, which get invaded by the elms and have incredibly compact soil that needs more amendment than I seem able to supply. Then, there the landslides and slumps that require preventive planting (and lots of prayer) and that ruin jobs already done and force us to start over again. Well....other gardeners have horrible plagues like RRD: everybody has difficulties. A lot of our current work is planting and propagation: once we will have most of the garden planted, I THINK the work will slow down considerably. We've been awfully busy. We started back in late 2002 with a degraded ex-farm with hardly an ornamental plant on it (there were two mature lilacs by the house), and no trees in the future garden; now we have close to two acres with much of the basic planting done, and several hundred roses, many of them propagated by me, as I also have propagated much of our lavender, rosemary, and other basic shrubs and subshrubs. We've planted Italian cypresses and Italian pines, pears and persimmons, native oaks and hazelnuts, and we have precious baby volunteer oaks sprouting all over the garden. The work has accelerated as we've gone forward, and I'm beginning to look forward to the end of this intense labor, though if we have the energy and determination to do so, I foresee another two years of hard work. Well, we'll see. Once a plant has gotten a decent planting hole and is well started, though, I agree, it's time to relax and enjoy. I weed once or twice a year, cut out dead growth when I get around to it and prune in the winter; lay down a bit of mulch if needed. Parts of the garden go months with no attention, and while they look sadly untidy, the neglect doesn't do any harm. Plants that have been well planted and are in not too difficult parts of the garden can be magnificent with hardly any input from the gardener: I think of 'Sanguinea', an absolutely thriving and vigorous rose that I do nothing for; 'Mme. Antoine Mari' and 'Duchesse d'Auerstaedt' that get an annual armful of much--and in the case of the Duchesse, a determined pruning at the end of winter--and are reliably glorious. Good planting holes, sun and not too much of it, water the first year,--and choose your varieties wisely!--and the gardener can relax and enjoy. Jackie, your garden is beautiful; I love that photograph! I hope that one day I too will have a mature garden, perhaps even one my grandchildren will cultivate and love. We're doing the work of starting it; after this it will be up to those who come after us. Harmonyp, I just love your comments about your benign neglect of your garden; I think I remember your writing about it before. Isn't it wonderful when we learn something that makes our life easier rather than more laborious? I've said before that Strawberryhill and I are in some respects at opposite ends of the gardening spectrum, as she is a scientific gardener and I am, well, something different, an attentive (sometimes) observer but not quantitative. But we're both working very hard to transform our reluctant clay soil into fertile ground. Perhaps I'm a future lazy gardener. Melissa |
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- Posted by floridarosez9 10 (My Page) on Sun, Dec 9, 12 at 8:32
| I am lazy in that I don't spray and I do very little pruning. However, I'm surrounded by citrus groves and cattle pastures and I have weed pressures that boggle the mind from blown in weed seeds. We're talking head high weeds if I don't constantly battle them. I garden in sugar sand, so there's no such thing as just digging a hole and plonking a rose in it. If I did that, they would be consumed by nematodes or die from lack of nutrients. I've recently realized there is no such thing as over feeding a rose in my sandy soil. I have a Rosette Delizzy that totally died and grew back from the roots and several Belinda's Dreams that were very heavily damaged by a cane dieback disease that I never was able to get a diagnosis for. They never reached their previous size and had only scattered blooms. I was ready to dig them up, but instead launched a last-ditch effort of feeding them heavily with alfalfa, cotton seed meal, mulching them heavily with horse manure, and twice a week I threw a tablespoon of Miracle Grow at them and watered it in well. The response has been amazing. They are growing like crazy, and R. Delizzy right now is exquisite, covered in blooms that are much larger than they have been and the blooms are such an intense yellow they're almost peach-colored surrounded by deep pink, almost red outer petals. Her colors here are usually bleached out by the sun and heat. The B. Dreams also have huge blooms, but I haven't noticed the color is more intense. I'm considering upping the ante on all my roses to see what happens. |
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| After reading all of this I think the biggest lesson to be learned is that you need to find what works best for you and your particular patch of soil. Every planting hole is different, as is every rose planted in that hole and every person who plants that hole. You do what you have to and what you can and hope for the best. |
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- Posted by jeannie2009 PNW 7/8 (My Page) on Sun, Dec 9, 12 at 15:33
| This is a great thread. One of the things I notice is that weather conditins and age of garden affects our gardening style. My garden is now 3 years old. Well one bed is that old. The three year old bed has some roses in it which I never expected to get so big so quick. Yes Jeri I listened to you. I guess I dont have well developed tape measure skills. So about half a dozen roses will be moved to the new garden...that's good as I wont have to buy many this spring. Weeding skills..with bermuda grass in abundance...no one would ever accuse me of having a manicured garden. I do love it and sure seems to me that we all share that trait. I fertilize with alfalfa-manure tea, manure and more manure. The pics are so special. I can only dream of such a mature garden. Thanks for sharing. Jeannie |
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- Posted by Strawberryhill 5a IL (My Page) on Sun, Dec 9, 12 at 19:06
| I forget to thank Jackie for posting those great pics... I keep clicking on this thread to see her garden again and again ... so refreshing, like paradise ... would love to have those as my screen saver. |
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- Posted by floridarosez9 10 (My Page) on Sun, Dec 9, 12 at 23:24
| I know. Isn't it an amazing garden? I love all Jackie's pictures. |
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| The older I get the lazier I get, and love it! With a LOT of mulching, am hoping the garden is finally to the point of pretty much taking care of itself with enough water, but do know here in Texas, don't let the weeds get a head start or there's trouble ahead!! |
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- Posted by daisyincrete 10? (My Page) on Mon, Dec 10, 12 at 1:56
| Jackie. Your's, is the sort of garden that I could happily wander for hours in. Daisy |
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| YES, I second Strawberryhill--can we please have some more pix? Colleen |
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- Posted by jardineratx 9tx (My Page) on Mon, Dec 10, 12 at 8:46
| Your garden photos are beautiful, Jackie! Unfortunately, in my Texas garden "lazy gardener" is an oxymoron. With our excessive heat, intermittent drought, maurauding wildlife, and clay soil, I have had to work hard in my garden. It has, however, become less labor-intensive as the soil amendments have started to improve the soil and the maturing roses and perennials have become more tolerant of stress. Through the years, as the plants have grown to maturity, they have started to compliment one another and there are no more gaping holes in the garden beds. Years of mulching have suppressed some of the weed growth and the pruning of our trees and evergreens that was done in the initial years of the garden have paid off in that the youthful suckering and lack of structure have both diminished. I hope to never neglect my garden, but rather, to have a garden that will continue to thrive even with a certain degree of non-intervention on my part. You are blessed to have inherited an established garden and are very wise to maintain it as you have. Molly |
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- Posted by jacqueline3 9CA (My Page) on Mon, Dec 10, 12 at 11:43
| Thank you all for your kind remarks. One last picture - hardly any flowers blooming, but lots of green. This is what I call the "side garden". It was there when we moved in - we just planted the circular central bed (which had gone to weeds), added the bench (which you will note has bushes growing up through it), the bird bath, and the gravel on the path. Jackie |
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| Absolutely gorgeous - please give us more, more, more!! |
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| When I see a beautiful garden such as yours I'm somewhere between pining and accepting. There is an artistic part of gardening that I think some people really have, and others, like me, are just too linear, mathematical. My gardens are all roses of any color, spaced with pretty symmetrical spacing - some with plants in between, some not. There is nothing that looks like a professionally thought out, piece of art. Wish I had it in me, but just don't. Thank goodness the roses themselves are beautiful!!! |
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| Harmony, I'm like you; I don't have an artistic bone in my body - my mind wants to make everything symmetrical and in place, but fortunately, Mother Nature has other plans and changes everything, so I have decided to let her do the artistic work... I did plant native and grass seeds in one area of my garden last winter, and of course the flowers and grasses grew where they wanted. They mix beautifully among the roses, and this has become a favorite part of the garden. |
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- Posted by melissa_thefarm NItaly (My Page) on Mon, Dec 10, 12 at 23:06
| Ogrose, there's a lot of truth in your last comment. I think many of the most beautiful gardens, and the ones most to my taste, are those in which Nature is seen as a collaborator rather than as the Enemy. |
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| I'm one of those intimidating gardeners :) I inherited a neglected ill-planned garden, so I cleared everything out and made my garden from scratch. I did it all on a shoestring. Bought the smallest plants to save money. Never ordered ready made turves, but cut shoots from the remains of the moribund ancient lawn to make a new one - after reconstructing the gentle slope with hoe, pail and wheelbarrow. This is how it looked like 2 years after I moved in: |
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| Wow! the Browse button works. I uploaded this from my computer. I seem to be able to upload only one photo at a time, so i'll do this post by installments. This is how my garden looks today (the photos are really of the cats. the garden got in by mistake :) |
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| And here is my Red Robbin (Gloire de la chatte d'hiver): And Jackie - I think you're not only lucky, but also so wise to realize you're lucky and leave your garden alone. I consider myself to be lucky as well. It's only a different sort of luck. |
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- Posted by jaspermplants 9 az (My Page) on Tue, Dec 11, 12 at 9:01
| This is a bit off-subject, but I was looking at Jackie's wonderful picture of a rambling Anna Olivier. Beautiful, I love love love the "informal" look, or whatever you call it. My question: I have what I thought was Anna Olivier, but it is firmly yellow, none of the creamy/apricot colors in the roses shown in HelpMeFind. I have thought it was mis-labelled and was likely Etoile de Lyon, or someone like that. However, Jackie, your picture of Anna Olivier looks a lot like mine, at least from what I can tell from your picture. Does your Anna Olivier has any apricot colors? Do you have any closer pictures of her? Whoever she is, she is beautiful in my garden and I love her, but am curious as to her "real" identity! Thanks! |
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- Posted by Strawberryhill 5a IL (My Page) on Tue, Dec 11, 12 at 10:25
| Hi WinterCat: Thanks for those great pics. What's the name of that gorgeous green hedge you planted? If I had seen those when I first moved here, I would NOT have bought wimpy white pine trees. Here in zone 5a I'm lucky if my roses survive the winter. I laughed when I read Roseseek (Kim Rupert) described his soil/climate: "I received 5" of rain with several weeks of 95 - 108 temp . Mine soil is corn meal and talc with ZERO organics. Mine is a 24% down hill, western and southern facing grade." I'll describe my soil/climate in Chicagoland: "I received 40" of annual rain, plus 38" melted snow. My soil is rock hard clay, pH 7.7, that broke a rototiller machine. My garden is shaded with many trees that it should be considered a mushroom farm... I'm vitamin D-deficient and take prescribed mega-dose ... if this gloomy weather continues, I'll turn into a vampire. The wind here is so strong that it blew my kid's playpark onto the tomatoe garden, it also toppled over a portable potty ... I feel sorry for the construction worker inside." |
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- Posted by jacqueline3 9CA (My Page) on Tue, Dec 11, 12 at 11:15
| Jaspermplants - re your question about Anna Olivier. Yes, mine (all of which are from rooted cuttings of the old ancient one, which has been ID'd by the tea rose authors in Australia, and Vintage Gardens, as the correct AO) usually have the apricot/buff coloring, especially dark on the back of the buds (see pic). However, she is a tea rose, and thus the colors can be very variable depending on the temps, weather, season, etc. I have seen my bushes with all very pale yellow blooms, all pale pink blooms, and even all white. Enough to confuse anyone! I would say that 85% of the time they are buff/apricot, however. There is literature that at some time in the past a "all pale yellow all of the time" tea rose got confused with AO. I believe that, for instance "Bermuda Anna Olivier" is like that - you might want to look that one up and see if it looks like your rose. Jackie |
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- Posted by lavender_lass WA zone 4 (My Page) on Tue, Dec 11, 12 at 11:54
| I think I am a lazy gardener, because I don't do much more than weed a few times a year and water. But, my friends think I am a gardening fanatic...mainly because I actually have a garden! LOL Most of my friends and family just don't want to 'take the time' to garden. They like the idea of the garden, but even watering seems to be more of a commitment than they want to make in the summer. Luckily, my mom loves to garden, so we have a lot of fun going plant shopping together...and try to go to the Northland Rosarium a couple of times every summer. Of course, we keep coming home with more roses...which means more garden beds :)
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- Posted by melissa_thefarm NItaly (My Page) on Wed, Dec 12, 12 at 1:34
| Lavender Lass, Reading your comments about people not wanting to take the time to garden reminds of what my sister once said, that she went into horticulture because she wanted to be able to spend a lot of time outdoors and that job was a good justification. I just got through planting 78 roses in the mud--DH and I, it was a joint job--and I know that gardening can at times be a lot of hard work. But then yesterday, when that job was done, I continued fooling around in the garden until the sun set. It was a beautiful mild sunny day, I was surrounded by lovely countryside, I could stop and rest when I felt like it. The "work" was just a way of being outdoors, pleasantly. |
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- Posted by jaspermplants 9 az (My Page) on Wed, Dec 12, 12 at 9:18
| Jackie, thanks for posting the picture of Anna Olivier's bud. I'm pretty sure mine is either Etoile de Lyon or Bermuda Anna Olivier (are they the same rose?). I did get Lady Roberts from Vintage this fall and am looking forward to finally having the "real" Anna Olivier, or her sport, of course. I have heard such good things about both roses. |
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- Posted by mendocino_rose z8 N CA. (My Page) on Wed, Dec 12, 12 at 10:38
| Good for you Jackie. It's a beautiful garden and you're having a wonderful time with it. I guess I would call myself a lazy gardener too but on a large scale. |
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| Hi Strawberryhill, Sorry not to reply earlier. I've been on Hanukah leave (I've got a computer only at work). It's a thuja orientalis hedge. I think you can find info on it in the Conifers Forum. I'm attaching a link to wiki. The photo shows how it looks unpruned. In order for it to be a good privacy hedge it need pruning every 6-8 months in my zone, so it's labour intensive. The pruning also ensures that it keeps its fresh phosphorous green colour.
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- Posted by jon_in_wessex z8/9 UK (My Page) on Sun, Dec 16, 12 at 9:54
| True that the 'never-anything-but' yellow Anna (including the 'Bermuda', if that is the Beales one) is considered to be 'Etoile de Lyons' by the same experts Jackie mentions. That is certainly accepted now in gardens like Mottisfont Abbey. Hope this helps. |
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