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| Felicite Parmentier Desiree Parmentier have peaked my interest. Enable me. Please share information or post pictures. Although once blooming, Who were The Parmentiers? |
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- Posted by nikthegreek 9b/10a E of Athens (My Page) on Tue, Dec 10, 13 at 13:38
| No chance of repeat to my knowledge. The first is a (hybrid?) alba the second is a hybrid gallica. These are old european rose hybrids. There are other 'Parmentiers' bred by this guy and some 'Parmentiers' named in honour of him. |
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- Posted by mad_gallica Z5 Eastern NY (My Page) on Tue, Dec 10, 13 at 19:07
| The Parmentiers were a bunch of Belgian brothers from the early 19th century. If I remember things right, Desiree's and Felicite's father was the head of a garden. Their uncle was the rose breeder, and another uncle is often given credit for advancing American horticulture. Andre came to the US and started a nursery near the current site of Rockefeller Center. He also did landscape design. The only surviving work of his is the Vanderbilt Mansion grounds in Hyde Park (I always find it strange to type that since the estate was the original Hyde Park, and gave its name to the town) He did some work on southern plantations that have yet to be identified, so it is possible that more survives. Felicite is a very nice, relatively small Alba. I don't grow it, but I've seen it, and very much liked what I've seen. Desiree has proliferated too much for me to really approve. However, it has responded to neglect, and offends much less than it used to when fed. |
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- Posted by mauvegirl8 Texas (My Page) on Tue, Dec 10, 13 at 22:11
| Thank you for the details of The Parmentiers! I recently came across the term "proliferation", in regards to roses. |
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- Posted by lavender_lass WA zone 4 (My Page) on Wed, Dec 11, 13 at 19:52
| Isn't Felicite Parmentier also Madame Hardy? I think she's the only person to have two roses named for her :) Felicite Parmentier...
Madame Hardy...
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| Felicite Parmentier I recommend as a tidy alba with beautiful flowers and intense, wonderful fragrance. Desiree P was shovel-pruned because most of the blooms would proliferate and look like a mutant alien growth. |
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