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Mon, Dec 30, 13 at 17:03
| Any suggestions for antique or heirloom roses resistant to hot humid weather in southwest Florida.? I have a Louise Phillipe that is struggling and an Alfred Colombo that is blooming constantly but is balling up badly. Started here with these two that were suggested by local Nursery and am not seeing any roses in the gardens around here. Am new to this area, love the old and antique roses had some luck growing in Maryland with completely different results ,and this area is proving challenging . Would appreciate any suggestions. |
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| Duchesse de Brabant. I cannot suggest this beauty enough. It's a total champ, and doesn't even bat an eye at the high humidity and heat we experience here in N. Texas (triple digit numbers with humidity indexes of 80%+). Cramoisi Supeurieur
Souv. D'Elise Vardon
Reines des Violettes (appreciate some afternoon shade)
Mme. Alfred Carriere
Mons Tillier
Maggie (Bourbon)
Souv. De La Malmaison
Mrs. B R Can't (bulletproof here)
McClinton Tea Hope this helps! Josh |
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Thanks so much! I have been considering a few of the ones you suggested don't have a great deal of space so your list is greatly appreciated. I have never tried Duchesse de Brabant but she is one of the roses I was considering, I usually get my roses from the antique rosé emporium and they do have her. Thank you again
Luba |
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- Posted by saldut 9-10 st pete, fl (My Page) on
Tue, Dec 31, 13 at 17:34
| I have Rock Hill Peach, Ducher, Spice, Louis Philippe, Mrs. BR Cant, Mons Tillier, Prosperity, Bermuda Kathleen, several more OGRs in my no-spray garden..also Drift roses... they all do very well no BS at all, also seem resistant to Chili-Thrips.... I stopped spraying several years ago and it has been an exercise in what eliminates itself, most of my Hybrid Teas and Moderns are gone....sally |
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| Saldut has some great ones listed that I don't currently grow. Definitely look into those. I also forgot: Champney's Pink Cluster
Pink Pet
Marchioness de Londonderry
Mme. Laurette Messimy
Archduke Charles
La Marne Josh |
RE: Heat resistant antique/old roses
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| Luba, if you're gardening in Florida sand, you will have to amend your soil more than you're probably used to in order to grow roses. Maybe you're lucky enough to live in an area with real soil--unlike most of us in Florida. Belinda's Dream is also good here. Sally, are you still growing Julia Child? I just bought one and am anxious to see how it does. |
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| How much of an amendment will I need? I am putting composting soil and organic rose food around each rose. I live near the port charlotte sound and it is all sand which is all new to me, but I can't give up roses. |
RE: Heat resistant antique/old roses
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I adore and grow most all of the above. Check out Mme. Berkeley - she isn't a monster like Mrs. BR Cant or Mon. Tillier - lovely shaped bush and creamy pale apricot blooms that come all at once. Check out Chamblees Nursery for some wonderful OGRs - they are very reasonable on prices.
Judith |
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| luba41, we use a full bag (2 cu. ft.) of organic material under each rose we plant. Some people also add clay-based kitty litter, which is also helpful. I like a planting hole about 18" deep and 22" wide, with the material in that hole made up of at least 2/3 organic material, no more than 1/3 the native sandy soil. For a very large-growing variety (Mutabilis, Cl. Devoniensis, Marechal Niel, etc.), we make the hole wider and add even more organic compost. We then maintain a deep (3+ inches) mulch. Right now we're using pine needles; in the past, we've used pine bark or oak leaves, all with good results. If you're on FaceBook, check out the Central Florida Heritage Rose Society -- some of our members (including the current president) live in your area. You can get good cultural advice there. |
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- Posted by titian1 Sydney, Australiae (My Page) on
Sat, Jan 4, 14 at 18:13
| To amend sandy soil, I've heard that mixing clay in water and watering it on works. I've been lazy, and in a sandy bed, have just put small chunks of clay around. |
RE: Heat resistant antique/old roses
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| Luba, you also need to be aware of the nematodes in many Florida soils. |
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