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Mon, Dec 30, 13 at 21:28
| I stumbled upon Victor Verdier's page on HMF and saw that he often named roses after war heroes. Frederic II de Prusse, Jeanne d'Arc, etc. So it got me thinking about how many roses were named after famous generals, warriors, historical figures of war, etc. I know of General Gallieni, and the two I mentioned above. Any others y'all can think of? Josh |
This post was edited by JoshTx on Mon, Dec 30, 13 at 21:32
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| Général Kléber for sure. Duchesse de Montebello was the *wife* of one of Napoleon's generals. Not sure if Capitaine John Ingram was military or not. |
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| Marechal Niel, General MacMahon, Napoleon, Charles de Gaulle, Marechal Ney, General Macarthur. This query is a mind teaser. Cath |
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- Posted by nikthegreek 9b/10a E of Athens (My Page) on Tue, Dec 31, 13 at 1:10
| Quite a few roses named after Napoleon and a few named after Admiral Nelson. Two roses with Greek war of independence references are Botzaris and Ipsilante. |
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- Posted by river_crossroads 8b Central Louisiana (My Page) on Tue, Dec 31, 13 at 2:21
| Purplish blue clematis ‘General Sikorski’ would look great grown with climbing roses. Texas may be too hot, though. Sorry, OT! |
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- Posted by melissa_thefarm NItaly (My Page) on Tue, Dec 31, 13 at 2:24
| The political history of early 19th century France is written in the names of its roses, ancien regime vs. Bonapartists. 'Duchesse d'Auerstaedt' was the wife of one of Napoleon's marshals (I forget which); then there's 'Marechal Davoust', 'Napoleon', 'Eugene de Beauharnais' (Napoleon's stepson and viceroy of Italy). I presume 'Marie Louise' was named after Napoleon's second wife. On the monarchist side you have 'Princesse de Lamballe', one of Marie Antoinette's ladies in waiting, killed during the revolution, and 'Comte de Chambord', monarchist pretender to the French throne. The Bonapartists appear to have had the best of it in rose names. No one has mentioned 'General Schablikine' yet. Don't know who he was. I suppose a fair number of these military fellows are just celebrities of the day and the use of their names doesn't reflect the political convictions of the nurseryman who bestowed them on his creations. Belmont, how on earth did you get vowels with accents in your text without it showing up as gibberish? I can never manage that, and it seems that no one else is able to either. I ought to add that I'm using an Italian keyboard, but most posters don't have that complication. Melissa |
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- Posted by mariannese 5b (My Page) on Tue, Dec 31, 13 at 6:24
| Some military roses in my garden: Capitaine John Ingram, Commandant Beaurepaire, Corporal Johann Nagy (a bad photo enclosed) , and von Scharnhorst, a Prussian general. Two I don't grow are Général Jacqueminot and Géneral Schablikine, just testing if the diacritics will show up. I am using a Swedish keyboard. |
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- Posted by nikthegreek 9b/10a E of Athens (My Page) on Tue, Dec 31, 13 at 6:43
| Interesting info in this link (not necessarily related to military roses) but interesting nevertheless. Nik |
Here is a link that might be useful: Nabonnand and the French Riviera Russian nobility
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| The Bourbon 'Charles XII', named after the very military Swedish king. |
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| For something of a little more recent vintage, 'President Eisenhower', a 1952 HT. http://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=2.22657 Go to HMF and search 'general' - you will get simply pages of results. Rosefolly |
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| Many of the "military figures" as well as general politicians of the Nineteenth and Twentieth Century have had roses (and other plant types) named for them. General McArthur, at least four named for Hindenburg, Churchill, and many others were memorialized by rose names. K.T. Marshall was Gen. George C. Marshall's wife. The story of how the K.T. Marshall rose came to be so named is recounted in Papa Floribunda. Both Admiral Ward and his wife, Mrs. Aaron Ward were also so honored. Then, you have those which were named to commemorate particular battles. La Marne and Verdun immediately come to mind. This is where an edition of Modern Roses comes in handy as you have an actual printed list of entries to scan for familiar names instead of having to think of and search for particular names in a database. Kim |
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| This is such an interesting thread! Thanks for all of your input. I also came across General Schablikine, a Tea rose. Josh |
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| Melissa, I'm on a Mac and I can get the accents with keystroke combinations. The only one I always remember is "é" which is "option" (or "alt") plus "e" at the same time, then just "e." Sometimes I just copy and paste names from other places if there are many accents. Also, I just noticed that in my Firefox browser there's an option under the "Edit" menu called "Special Characters" which gives me a window where it looks like I can select just about any character. Other browsers might have something like that too. |
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| Josh, I am so surprised that no one has mentioned the HP General Washington, and I note that the rose commemorates GW's military -- and not his political -- service. Larry |
This post was edited by cramoisi on Fri, Jan 3, 14 at 20:38
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| Odinthor -- Why did someone in the 21st century choose, at long last, to honor Charles XII with a new rose? Offhand, I can't think of a better person to ask. |
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