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What to do?

momstar
13 years ago

After the miserable hardening off experience, I am short a few hundred flower seedlings.

Is it too late to direct sow? Zone 5 - last frost date is May 15. Or should I try to plant in pots/containers until they are big enough to transplant? Or do I give up and go without flowers this year?

Comments (14)

  • taz6122
    13 years ago

    Since you didn't have much luck hardening off why risk it again? Direct sow, it's not too late.

  • sarahbarah27
    13 years ago

    Oh, you poor thing! Don't get discouraged:) Lots of seeds can be directly sown, and annuals are better sown after the last frost. Don't give up, you can still have flowers this year. What seeds are you planning to sow?

  • sleepy33
    13 years ago

    In momstar's defense, her hardening off misfortunes were not self-inflicted; remember her hubby helping with the hoop houses? :) Momstar, your flower plans will depend on what you're wanting to sow.

  • oilpainter
    13 years ago

    Direct sow Zinnias and Marigolds. Both will flower from seed in about a month. If you direct sow now you will have flowers by the end of June that will bloom all the rest of the summer

  • momstar
    Original Author
    13 years ago

    Seriously oilpainter? (big smile)

    Zinnias are one of the things that met with an unfortunate fate. As soon as this blasted rain stops long enough to do it, I'm going to direct sow them.

    Thanks sleepy. I appreciate you coming to my defense.

    Any direction about what is good to sow and what I should give up on would help. The list is below (as far as my memory will go)

    Scarlet Poppies
    Sweet Williams
    Carnations
    Cosmos
    Shasta Daisy
    Zinnias (tall, dwarf, and lilliput) (yea oilpainter!)
    Black-eyed Susans
    Asters
    Purple Cone Flower
    Snapdragons
    Morning Glory (didn't plant these before, figured I'd direct sow them from the beginning)

    I'm worried when I direct sow that they will get washed away when watered. Being just a little on the OCD side I'd like to prevent this if possible (ergo the planting inside attempt).

    Any suggestions/recommendations? I was thinking about cutting TP rolls in half and making a little secured area to plant in. Then I would know where to expect them to come up and also it might help with washing them out when watering. Good idea? Bad idea?

  • susan2010
    13 years ago

    Marigolds, zinnias, cosmos, morning glory (soak them overnight), nasturtiums, and (I think) the poppies can all be direct sown. The most "dangerous" part for me is the risk of weeding out the seedlings by mistake!

  • taz6122
    13 years ago

    I would nick the morning glory seeds. I went from 10% to 90% germination by scarifying them.

  • momstar
    Original Author
    13 years ago

    How deeply should I nick them? Just rough them up with sand paper or actually cut through the outer shell?

  • oilpainter
    13 years ago

    Sweet william is a biennial so you'll have to leave the seed heads to get more flowers.
    Shasta daisy, carnations, Black eyed susans, and cone flower are perennials. I would sow all these in flats. Put them under the lights and then harden off. Then I'd plant in an area where they can be cared for throughout the summer--sort of a plant day care. Somewhere where they are protected from the harsh midday sun. They in all likelyhood won't flower this year anyway. Then next spring you can transfer them to their permanent homes and watch them bloom.

    If your poppies are perennial treat them the same way. If they are annuals direct sow them.

  • taz6122
    13 years ago

    I use a dremel tool with a grinding or cut-off wheel and just skim the seed from end to end. Just roughing it with sand paper should do.

  • susan2010
    13 years ago

    FWIW, I used to nick morning glories, but one year I soaked them instead and got just as good germination. It's a lot easier, so I don't bother to nick them anymore. Of course, your mileage may vary.

  • taz6122
    13 years ago


    FWIW, I used to nick morning glories, but one year I soaked them instead and got just as good germination.

    I've tried both, same year, same batch of seed, got better germination from scarifying.

  • momstar
    Original Author
    13 years ago

    Great responses people! I brought my morning glory seeds to work with me. (I know, I'm hopeless. But I'm also bored to death.) I've got an emory board and I'm going to scarify them then plant them when I get home.

    I'll let you know how it works.

    One question, does scarifying recommended for pepper seeds?

  • susan2010
    13 years ago

    Here are some good seed starting tips for vegetables.

    Here is a link that might be useful: Seed Starting Tips