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Bigfoot Cleyera in 7b? Behind Abelia?

CJ Mac
11 years ago

Anyone in zone 7b have experience growing Bigfoot cleyera? Has it survived winters well?

Second question: how do you think it would look behind a row of Edward Goucher abelia?

Have a slope between our backyard and the neighbor's on which we had a row of elaeagnus that toppled over with the heavy rains we had in January. Had to remove them but still want a screen between us the neighbors--just something more manageable.

We've already planted 5 abelia but are thinking of moving them down the slope and putting something more upright behind them.

Comments (6)

  • Embothrium
    11 years ago

    Alabama?

  • CJ Mac
    Original Author
    11 years ago

    Yes, just north of Birmingham.

  • CJ Mac
    Original Author
    11 years ago

    Just watched a video on YouTube from Southern Living and they say the Bronze Beauty grows 8-10 feet, LeAnn 10-15 feet, and Bigfoot 15-25 (?). We didn't want anything THAT tall, so would Bronze Beauty work behind some Edward Goucher abelias?

    Once planted we won't be able to get up this slope to trim/prune, so want something that can be left alone.

  • Dave in NoVA • N. Virginia • zone 7A
    11 years ago

    If you're talking about Ternstroemia gymnanthera (Japanese ternstroemia), I think that would be a good choice. You may have to do some supplemental watering if they're in full sun.

    Another choice would be compact, upright hollies such as Blue Maid, Spartan, or Castle Wall/Spire.

    Sounds like you don't want anything much over 10 feet?

  • CJ Mac
    Original Author
    11 years ago

    Well...we just had to remove 4-5 GIANT elaeagnus from that spot because they tipped over from the heavy rains we had in January. When we moved here, we had no idea how big and unwieldy they would grow, just wanting something quick to fill up this slope and give us privacy. Obviously the neighbors hated them because they would throw cut branches into our yard. (And when they tipped over, there was a big pile of cut branches on top!)

    What's a little funny, though, is that a landscaper who came over to advise found the stake for the property line and we own about 2 feet more of our neighbor's yard than we--and probably they--realized. So they actually had no right to object.

    We went to a nursery a few days ago and the owner recommended "Cleyera Japonica" saying that he has not noticed any differences between it and the cultivar Bronze Beauty. He said it will make an "impenetrable" screen for us but not as crazy as elaeagnus.

  • Embothrium
    11 years ago

    Yes, Elaeagnus grow big - but yours may have been root-bound. Inspect roots and pull them open when planting container-grown shrubs. I had some Ternstroemia go over in snow after many years as foundation shrubs. When I dug them up and shook the soil off the bases of them looked like rutabagas, most of the main roots having been wound around into a fist by tiny pots during the early days in the production facility.

    Anything you buy that turns out to have tight root knots at the bases of the stems should be taken back to the store. I don't know if any given vendor will provide satisfaction once the plant has been "ruined" by efforts to correct bad roots at planting time but the system is never going to stop putting out plants with deformed roots if nobody ever complains.

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