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Posted by
laceyvail z5b, WV (
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Thu, Aug 23, 07 at 5:55
| I recently ordered this shrub for fall delivery, and now I'm getting nervous. The catalog (a very respected one) describes their original plant as "Now 7 years old, the plant measures 30 inces high and 42 inches wide." I'm counting on this, that is no wild suckering. What has your experience been with this cultivar in particular? |
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RE: Clethra 'Sixteen Candles'-Your experience please
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It suckers as all Clethras do, but not to the extend of not being unmanageable.
Even here in 6b it always have tips dieback, so it reach 30-32" high only by the end of the season being cut back to 20-24" in a spring. |
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I don't know what's wrong w/me, I've killed 2. In the same spot, I've had luck w/ Japanese maples, buttonbush,itea, blueberries, hydrangea, fargesia, heuchera. The 2nd one I got, I kept it in the pot a little longer, trying to baby it along, but it died, too.
We have had a rough summer, drought & some extreme temps, but I think this is one plant I'm just destined to kill... |
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| I was just about to ask the same question in the hope that Sixteen Candles did sucker some. I have only had mine for a year and so far it shows no suckering but I love it so much I would like it to spread. I love this shrub because of the glossy dark green leaves which are much more attractive than those of any other clethra I have seen. Of course it also has the wonderful perfumed flowers. |
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| I replaced a failing Kalmia with one in late spring of this year. It's small right now (about 18") but very bushy and seems to be doing quite well. I, too, was taken with the glossy foliage and managed to miss the flowers while on a roadtrip (damnit!). But I'm interested in easy and "bullet-proof". |
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| I have one for a few years. No wild suckering here. Fortunately it had suckered a little, within the range of the plant. Otherwise, I'm not sure I would have it right now. It had died back a lot last winter. No flowers this year. |
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| I also had a very sparse blooms this year. Not only on 16 Candles, on all of mine. |
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- Posted by ditas z4b-5 Iowa (My Page) on
Thu, Aug 13, 09 at 20:17
| Hi - I planted C-16 Candles in the fall of '07 in a bright shady front foundation bed - I was told that she will do well in the site, just be sure mulch heavily for Winter. She completely missed the damage of Winter's return in April - broke dormancy in late May'08, even gave me a few blossoms in June! Like Joycenh & Chelone, I fell for the dark, shiny foliage & promise of lovely, quiet scent + will do OK in bright shade (1 hr of late aft. sun). This year, due to past, very, harsh/killing Winter, broke dormancy 3 wks later than late habit, but survived ... however only 2 canes ... was told by nursery to wait & give TLC & later, prune all the obviously dead canes. The 2 canes running diff directions, have grown some branches, & managed to send blooms (5 total)/odd looking bush ... now I just found 2 new buds!!! €;) Sorry for long story ... my ??? ... do I:
*Prune after the blooms are spent?
*Prune in Spring to shape?
*Give over-wintering coverups?
*Double up on mulch?
* Will she really do OK in the bright shade site? Many TIA! €;) |
RE: Clethra 'Sixteen Candles'-Your experience please
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| Suckers are the least of your worries. Its a little more fussy on its conditions and rabbits love em!! I've have Ruby Spice. Whens its thriving its the habit and leaves that very attractive. |
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| MD, it blooms on new wood, so prune/shape it as you need it, after the bloom or in a spring it doesn't matter. |
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- Posted by ditas z4b-5 Iowa (My Page) on
Thu, Aug 13, 09 at 22:24
| Thank you George - I'm wondering if there is still time for it to fill & round up some before Winter comes? ... 'seems to be on the roll now ... also, I'll perhaps give some protection from Winter, to save the 2 branches w/young, secondary ones! |
RE: Clethra 'Sixteen Candles'-Your experience please
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| If you prune it right now, I'd guess that (in your zone) new growth will not have time to harden till winter. So, early spring you'll have your window of opportunity to be open again. |
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- Posted by ditas z4b-5 Iowa (My Page) on
Fri, Aug 14, 09 at 15:02
| Many thanks again George ... makes a lot of sense ... I was, indeed, told that some of the newer limbs do get frost bitten! Will report back next season ... surely, we can't have 2 bad Winters in a row!!! €;) |
RE: Clethra 'Sixteen Candles'-Your experience please
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| Mine has done more suckering and spreading than any other shrub I have. Really don't mind, but can see how some people would. Have several now, after buying one, the suckers being easily potted up. |
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| Deer love mine....it remains 24" high because that's the herbivores pruning range through the fence. |
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'Sixteen Candles' is touted for being non-sprawling, or splaying, falling open, as 'Hummingbird' and the straight species are known to do.
Does it live up to the claim? |
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- Posted by ditas z4b-5 Iowa (My Page) on
Mon, Aug 24, 09 at 21:39
| Hi Flora - Sorry about sneaky, munching deers!!! I don't mind mine low as long as she fills out in a bright/shaded exposure ... what kind of exposure does yours have? TIA!!! Paula - No experience yet, of any Hummers visiting, as there are other more attractive blossoms around, they come to. Also, as I posted above, mine nearly became a casualty of last Winter ... only produced too few, blossoms to attract those tiny Hummers! Hopefully can report something next season! €;) |
RE: Clethra 'Sixteen Candles'-Your experience please
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| IME, 'Hummingbird' and 'Sixteen Candles' are visualy almost undistingvishable, though "H' is a little tiny bid more open than '16', but that could be just a by-product of a slightly different sun exposure they grow. |
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| I have 'Hummingbird' and I love mine. It scared me the first winter when it was so late to start growing, but other than that it has been carefree, growing well in what I don't think are ideal conditions for it, in dry part shade. It is a little floppy this year, where it was not last year. I think I deadheaded it last year and maybe I should have left it alone. Maybe it was just all the cloudy rainy weather we had this year. Mine didn't bloom as well as last year either. The foliage is great. No insect or disease problems at all, despite all the rain. It is slowly spreading out, but not in an obtrusive way. I sometimes see a rabbit in the yard, but have never seen any damage to it. I was thinking of getting 'Sixteen Candles' if it was smaller and tighter than 'Hummingbird'. Are you saying it isn't, ego? |
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PM, it isn't as per my observations.
I found '16' to be a better bloomer, but again, it could be just a location/sun factor, not a particular cultivar's feature. |
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- Posted by ditas Z4b-5 Iowa (My Page) on
Sat, Apr 24, 10 at 13:40
Thought to bring this thread back up for update on my *2-caned 16 Candles C* I didn't prune before Winter as there might not be time for new growth & was hoping for even just suckers - no such luck. She leafed out quite early (this mid-Apr) due to the early arrival of Jun-like Spring ... but still no luck from the bases. My ???
*** Should I prune those 2 limbs?
*** By how much would be reasonable? ... limbs are abt 2' long w/ several thin branches leafing as well. I appreciate your input! €;) |
RE: Clethra 'Sixteen Candles'-Your experience please
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Ditas,
I'd venture a two guesses:
a) too young
and
b) not enough moisture in a summer. BTW, pruning will not encourage suckering at all. |
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- Posted by ditas z4b-5 Iowa (My Page) on
Mon, Apr 26, 10 at 9:49
| Thank you George - I followed your advises in this thread above - the igloo effect of our very snowy Winter '09-'10 + very early sunny/warm Spring were reasons for this mo-early break of dormancy. Can I prune hard now (by how much?), before those 2 primary branches fully leaf out - to try & encourage more tiny branches from them? TIA! |
RE: Clethra 'Sixteen Candles'-Your experience please
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| bump how are your 16's doing? how tall are they now? how are they blooming? surviving winters? suckering? to those of you have also have Hummingbird, are their fragrances the same? |
RE: Clethra 'Sixteen Candles'-Your experience please
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| I had three. one died when it was very small. One died this year for no reason I could discern (it never suckered at all.) The third suckers wildly and at considerable distance. I'm still deciding whether to keep it. |
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