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Ligustrum, why are you dying?

sherigrounds
10 years ago

Ligustrums grow like weeds here, why is mine dying? It has big white spots on the branches, thin & losing leaves in middle. Has always been full until recently. Gets plenty of water & sun. Help, please!

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  • rhizo_1 (North AL) zone 7
    10 years ago

    Let's see a picture of the 'big white spots '. We might be able help you.

  • sherigrounds
    Original Author
    10 years ago

    Thanks. Here they are--big white spots on trunk & branches.

  • florauk
    10 years ago

    That looks like lichen - not usually a problem for a healthy tree. I don't think that's what's making your Ligustrums look sick.

  • lisanti07028
    10 years ago

    Is that sawdust under the right-hand branch? They can be attacked by the lilac borer (according to the research that I sadly had to do this spring), so look for low borer holes on the shrubs.

  • sherigrounds
    Original Author
    10 years ago

    Not sawdust, lime. I was told by a landscaper to put down lime to counteract dog urine (all the dogs in the neighborhood love my front flowerbed), and to spray shrubs with Sea Kelp. Neither has seemed to help so far.

  • rhizo_1 (North AL) zone 7
    10 years ago

    Lichens are considered, in my mind, a yellow warning flag that the shrub or tree in question is in decline. However, lichens are not the cause of the problem.

    I'd like to see some up close pictures of the sad looking upper foliage and branches. Have you noticed any severe leaf spotting, whitefly infestation, or other strange things going on in the upper portions of the plant?

    Problems with ligustrum are not unusual, help us figure out what's going on with yours.

  • sherigrounds
    Original Author
    10 years ago

    Thank you for your help.

    No insects, some leaf spotting & mildew, which makes me think it's fungus. Lots of promising buds on outside edges, nothing but sticks in middle.

    I have always trimmed around outside for shape, not inside. Do I need to trim inside also for aeration?

    I really want to save these plants--they've been here as long as I have!

  • florauk
    10 years ago

    Ken - I live in a damp, maritime climate where lichen is common, a vital natural habitat for many creatures and not a problem. In fact it's an indication of clean air. But I have noticed that posters from other places have said just what rhizo_1 said, so I hedged my bets. I only know the situation where I live, so I avoided a blanket statement.

    sherigrounds - "nothing but sticks in middle." You are right in thinking that shearing over the top is probably not helping the situation. I'll leave it to Ken to come in with the lecture on rejuvenation pruning.

    Here is a link that might be useful: Lichen

  • rhizo_1 (North AL) zone 7
    10 years ago

    Let's not forget that the lime applications could be a contributing factor to the decline of the shrubs. That's probably not the best way to deal with the animal issue. Lime can have a pretty significant impact on soil. Is this a dogs running amok problem or a bad dog owners situation?

    I'm pretty clueless about the horticultural uses of sea kelp, so won't speak to that. I doubt that it would be harmful, though.

    Sheri, your first picture looks to me like the hundreds of other Ligustrum I've seen with very bad whitefly OR scale insect (especially cottony cushion scale) OR one of the leaf spot diseases common to this plant. That's why I ask about seeing some pictures.

    Those yellowish blotches look like they 'could ' be one of the leaf spot fungi. It seems like all of your pictures show these shrubs in the shade. Is that just a coincidence or is the location a shady one most of the day?

    You mention 'mildew'. What do you mean by that? Powdery mildew? Black sooty mold?

    Your method of pruning is a problem, but this is not the time of year to address that, certainly not with rejuvenation pruning. I'm a big fan of that pruning technique and can promise you that Ligustrum responds wonderfully to it. But I would never recommend it at this time of year.

  • sherigrounds
    Original Author
    10 years ago

    I was ready to prune the dead stuff in the middle until I got your last post!

    The dogs are relatively new (our two), who also attract neighborhood pals, which might contribute to the bad soil issue.

    I think you might be onto something when you mentioned shade. The shrubs get a couple of hours of sun in the AM, but shade trees on either side have grown larger, preventing as much sun as they used to get.

    No insects, some leaf spot, and black sooty mold Kinda at a loss of what to do now--fungicide? Trim trees? Soil testing? Do not prune at all?

    Thanks again for taking so much of your time.

  • sherigrounds
    Original Author
    10 years ago

    The ligustrums are in partial shade all day long, no direct sun. That would account for their very slow demise--growth of shade trees on both sides.

    I can get trees' canopy trimmed if you think it will help. Otherwise, still searching for a cure.

  • rhizo_1 (North AL) zone 7
    10 years ago

    Sheri....you can prune 'dead stuff ' at any time.

    The amount of shade is surely a contributing factor to the shrubs ' decline. But if it MY choice, I would absolutely not limb up my trees in order to give these very common plants more sunlight!

    The trees contribute real value to your property.....the ligustrum......not so much.

    In the late winter or early spring, you can cut the plants all the way to the ground....no more than 6 inch stumps. This is the "rejuvenation pruning " we were talking about earlier. In a few short weeks, the plants will begin to rebound rapidly. You'll be shocked at how quickly ligustrum will regrow.

    It's only a stop gap measure, however. You'll need to begin a fungicidal routine that might not be effective for very long. OR you could remove the ligustrum and replace them with something that thrives in the shade.

    If you are certain that you have no insects (scale?), then your shade trees should be inspected for scale, aphids, or other sucking insects. Black sooty mold only grows on the sweet liquid excrement of insects.

    Overstory trees are often the home of the insects and the honey dew rains down on anything below.

  • sherigrounds
    Original Author
    10 years ago

    Wow, that's a lot of very useful information--I'm so glad I asked.

    How do you inspect trees as you mentioned? Even the lowest branches are inaccessible.

    I have Bayer Advanced Tree & Shrub that I have used on a "Charlie Brown" tree in the backyard. Would it be harmful to treat without being sure?

  • sherigrounds
    Original Author
    10 years ago

    Hope you are still around "rhizo_1," you have some great info & I still need to pick your brain!

    Did not know about "rejuvenation pruning" (yikes!), but keeping it in mind as a last resort.

    Do you think treating with insecticide would be harmful to a healthy tree? As you said, I would be better off to lose the shrubs instead of the trees.

    Sometimes you get caught up in saving a small part of the garden without looking at the big picture.

    Thanks again for all you help.

  • rdufrene
    8 years ago

    I know this was a couple years ago but I have ligustrums that look just like yours did and are quickly declining. Did yours survive? Please update.


  • sylvie sarkissian
    6 years ago

    My hedge is dying, I don't see any significant sign of disease but the leaves are dry and brittle. And they have shrunk a but whereas before they used to be lush green, what can I do ?

  • lisanti07028
    6 years ago

    Pictures, please, and tell us where you are (zone and state); it would help if you started a new thread with your question.

  • marc martin
    6 years ago

  • marc martin
    6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Hi, I have an older ligustrum, over 30+ years. I had one big branch die off which which was 1/3 of the canopy. I thought it was from a canker but the tree appears to have a fungus and is very thin now. I have lived here for 3 years so I feel like it's something I did. I introduced macho fern in front and one feeding of fertilizer. Could that be the problem? How can I cure infested fungus? I live in south Florida.


    I'm back after doing more research. It appears to be cercospora leaf spot. All I found was preventative measures and my tree is fully infested. Looks like I need to hire a specialist.