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Combination of shrubs in foundation planting

Posted by dlmill 5 CO (My Page) on
Sun, Aug 2, 09 at 19:49

I'm hoping that you all can help me choose the most succesful combination of shrubs for my foundation planting. I've got some favorites chosen, but some of them I have not been able to see in person. So, I'm having trouble deciding if my choices will go well together.

Here's the important background info:
- The foundation planting bed spans from front of the house (facing east) to the side (facing north). The bed has curves and is 4 feet wide at its smallest point and 7 feet it its widest.
- We live in Colorado, zone 5, so everything must be able to withstand cold, snow, winds, and late freezes. Some winter interest plants would be nice.
- In the foundation bed and the rest of the front yard beds, I'm looking for mostly white flowers and some plants with dark or red foliage. The house color is a tan/beige stucco, and we have a streetlamp in our yard that nicely illuminates white flowers.
- The bed is lined by a patio and a walkway, so frangrance would be nice, but is not necessary.
- The soil is fairly average sandy loam, fairly well-draining, and alkaline. I will add amendments to make the soil richer and possibly more toward neutral pH.
- There will also be perennials and annuals in the bed, but I want to get the shrub selection taken take of first, since that seems to be the most structural piece (other than the hardscaping, which is already done).

Here are the plants I really want, but I'm not sure they go well together:
- Wine and Roses Weigela (have 1 growing nicely)
- Little Lamb Hydrangea (have not seen this in person, but did like Limelight. Would prefer Little Lamb's smaller size and bloom appearance)
- Black Lace Sambuca (Love the foliage, but worried it may not get enough sun if located on the north side of the house)
- Artic Fire Dogwood (Love the dwarf size and red stems for winter interest)
- Boxwood (For an evergreen presence. Possibly green mountain and possibly green column as well - if I can find it)
- A few rose bushes (likely Iceberg, Snowdrift, or Moondance and maybe a red or two as well)

Here are some alternatives I'm considering:
- Dwarf Mugho pine (for an evergreen presence. Also I like the texture.)
- Some sort of barberry (for evergreen)
- Virbirum (possibly Aurora or another small variety)
- Dwarf double mock orange (I think the one I liked was called snowbelle?)
- Ninebark coppertina or diablo

Sorry this is so long, but I wanted to be as complete as possible. I'm really trying to analyze this because I want to be happy with this decision for the several (or more) years we will be in this house. Thanks in advance!


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RE: Combination of shrubs in foundation planting

One Physocarpus "Diablo' will more than fill a 7 ft. wide bed. Mine is probably 12 ft wide. 'Coppertina' so far seems a little smaller. BTW, a good combination at the foot of 'Coppertina' is a group of Spirea 'Ogon'.

I also wonder how well a Sambucus will do in Colorado. I found it a prima donna, and couldn't keep one alive, though there are native elderberries in the woods.


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RE: Combination of shrubs in foundation planting

if a mugo can get 100 feet tall.. a dwarf of her MIGHT be a mere 50 feet tall ... though i do exaggerate ...

find the annual growth rate of any conifer you are interested in .. and figure that it will start growing at that length after about 2 years.. and for the rest of your life thereafter ...

i suspect you will find that the mugo will outgrow the space ...

if you want a conifer.. research MINI[s] ....

ken


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RE: Combination of shrubs in foundation planting

Ken,
At one of the local nurseries they have a pine that gets only 3 feet tall. I must have the naming wrong, I'm sorry. I believe the mature spread on it is 5 feet, but they said it grows very slowly and can be pruned to maintain a smaller size. I will make sure I have the correct name and verify its mature size before buying. Thank you!

Laceyvail,
Yes, I think Diablo would likely be too big for the bed. Coppertina may be as well. Acutally, now that I look at it, the elderberry could grow a bit too large. The nice thing about the elderberry is that others have said it can easily be trimmed to the size you want it without hurting the appearance of the plant. Thanks to you as well. I will continue looking.


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RE: Combination of shrubs in foundation planting

Yes, Mugos can reach the size of the demoted planet Pluto. However, if you find a good dwarf variety (believe me, it'll still grow beyond what the plant tag, nursery staff, and research tells you if left to its own devices) you can keep it at bay for a very long time by never failing to do an annual spring candle cutting.

I'm sorry to say I don't know the variety, but I have a 36 year old mugo in my back yard that I've kept in a lovely, perfect mound pretty much at 3' high and 5' across. It was originally a dwarf variety, but it would expand 6" in all directions each year if I allowed it to do so.

The minis ken mentioned are "adorable" - although they grow too. Much better suited for that niche or specimen garden than mixed into a foundation planting.

I'm experimenting with a couple of Green Mountain boxwoods - suffered a little winter burn or sun scald, but grew out of it. I'll be considering some screening this year to try and prevent that.


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RE: Combination of shrubs in foundation planting

I have two boxwoods (inherited) on the left side of my home and I have planted two reine de violette bushes in between them this year. It looks really nice but has yet to fill in. I also have two wine and roses weigela behind them in the corner that I don't love personally, but they get the job done of filling in and they are pretty in bloom. I have never pruned it and it has a natural style.

On the side of my home that faces the creek I have a huge picture window. In front I have boxwood-barberry-boxwood then a burning bush (I know, but it was inherited) followed by the boxwood-barberry-boxwood again and another burning bush. I thought about ripping them out but they look nice.
I also have a very tall lilac that flanks that entire combination on both sides. There is plenty of space between the shrubs and the lawn to fill in with annuals. I planted purple poppy mallow this year to let it ramble through.

Have fun!


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RE: Combination of shrubs in foundation planting

The Colorado State University Extension says that the Mugo Pine "mops" will only get 3 feet wide and 3 feet high. This is one of the minis that Ken was talking about, I'm guessing. But still, I'm not sure how to put a combination of shrubs together, other than to just plant what I like and hope it all looks ok together eventually. Of course, I need to look into the moisture, pH, and fertilizing needs of these plants. Although there is a drip system, I'm sure the plants would be happiest if their neighbors have similar likes.

On the boxwoods, I'll do a search and read up on them.

Thanks for all the help!


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RE: Combination of shrubs in foundation planting

I always feel like evergreens are overrated...don't overuse them, unless you really like them even during the growing season. Typically I only use them as fondation plantings.

Dwarf Mugo Pine will get anywhere between 3-6 X 3-6, its a slow grower. Mine is in full sun and was grown maybe a couple inches in 3 years.

Diablos can get to 10-12, but its not common. Most of the mature ones in Wisconsin are 7 X 7. They take well to pruning to you could always maintain it.

Some of my favorite plants include:

Pink Supreme Flower Carpet Rose
Quickfire Hydrangea
Fine Wine Weigela
Mohican Viburnum
Korean Spice Viburnum
Ivory Halo Dogwood (over Arctic Fire)
Vernal Witchhazel
Royal Star Magnolia
Blackhaw Vibrunum

Obiviously some of these plants are larger than your planned area. Just don't forget some long blooming perrenials for the border.

Use this link to help find varieties of what you like.

http://www.northscaping.com/Tools/LPS-Engine.asp?10000000


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RE: Combination of shrubs in foundation planting

Whaas, thank you for the help. I guess I feel obligated to include evergreens, since I do live in zone 5, but I wonder if they are needed. I don't care for most of them much. And I don't have an unsightly foundation or anything to hide.

Most of the shurbs I have looked into seem to grow smaller here than some other places. In fact, some die down nearly to the ground each year.

Can I ask why Ivory Halo over Arctic Fire? I love the bright red fo the stems of Arctic Fire.


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