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Kleim's Hardy Gardenia

Atharaenea
9 years ago

I have a potted kleim's hardy gardenia, just planted this year. Supposedly they're hardy to 5-10F (zone 7), which is a bit warmer than my zone (hence why I put it in a pot). My plan was to leave it outside unless the temperature dropped too much, but now I'm worried how the sudden change in temperature might affect it... like going from 15F to 70F at night and then back outside to 15F in the morning.

I'm also concerned about what temperature will stress it the least. Maybe it'll survive 5F, but maybe there's a more realistic temperature I should bring it inside at?

Mainly I'm worried about the humidity and light inside my house... it gets dry inside during the winter, and there is little reliable sun coming through the windows (our apartment faces west). That's why I'd like to leave it outside as much as possible.

Comments (7)

  • ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5
    9 years ago

    an attached garage is usually a zone or two warmer ..

    ken

  • Atharaenea
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    Unfortunately I don't have a garage, or else I'd put it in there. I thought about stuffing it in the crawlspace under our apartment, but then it would get absolutely no sun at all.

  • splitrock
    9 years ago

    Do you have a sliding glass door? If it has drapes, you might try putting the gardenia pot between the cool glass and a thermal or heavy drape to keep a cool, bright zone for your plant during the winter months. Gardenias make good house plants if they have a bright, cool, spot and sit on a tray of moist gravel for humidity.
    Another idea would be to use a clear, large tote container as a mini greenhouse on a balcony or patio. I read recently that a string of holiday lights can keep a plant a bit warmer, and you could use that idea in with the mini greenhouse. I hope you find something that works for you.

  • davidrt28 (zone 7)
    9 years ago

    Not to throw a wet blanket on your plans, but if you're going to have a potted Gardenia, better to grow one of the tender cultivars that blooms all summer with big flowers than Kleim's Hardy, which blooms once in early summer with relatively small flowers.
    Digging it up every winter isn't going to be feasible really, it isn't the kind of plant that would cotton to that. It's either in the ground year round, or in a pot year round. Sorry. The good news is if you have a string of mild winters and a sheltered spot in should be ok in Louisville, at least until another winter like this one.

  • davidrt28 (zone 7)
    9 years ago

    BTW sheltered means near a building or fence, with protection from winter _morning_ sun. That is what kills tender broad leaved evergreens in zn 6 & 7.
    MIne never had a lick of damage until this winter, which killed it to the ground but it is vigorously resprouting. My prior low had been 7F and this winter it was 3F, 3 times.

    This post was edited by davidrt28 on Tue, Sep 9, 14 at 16:21

  • Atharaenea
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    My gardenia was a free gift when I ordered a honeysuckle from an online grower, which is why I have it at all. It was so cute when I got it (just 4 little leaves and an inch tall!). I just had to keep it like it's my baby or something.

    I do have a west facing patio though, surrounded by a short privacy fence. It would get maybe 3-4 hours of sun there in the afternoon. Would it be better to just leave it out there next to the window then? I'm not sure I could find a clear container big enough to cover the entire pot (it's a 20" pot, so the gardenia would have room to grow into it). This summer I've been moving the pot between the middle of the garden when it's dry out so it can get a full day's sun, and under the eaves when it's rainy so it doesn't get too wet, cause I know they're picky about soil moisture. It always looks sad when it's been under the eaves for several days and so not getting much sun, and perks right back up when it's in the middle of the garden. I don't want to kill it with too little sun in my attempt to keep it warm.

    I might try the Christmas light idea on very cold nights. I'm just hoping we don't have another crazy cold winter like this last one!

  • davidrt28 (zone 7)
    9 years ago

    "I do have a west facing patio though, surrounded by a short privacy fence. It would get maybe 3-4 hours of sun there in the afternoon. Would it be better to just leave it out there next to the window then?"

    Sounds like a very good spot for it. But remember, if we have another really bad winter, it will die. AND, it's too late to plant it for this year anyhow. Tender shrubs in borderline areas need to be planted in the spring.