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Posted by pt03 3 Southern Manitoba (My Page) on Tue, Jan 6, 09 at 9:11
| Hi everyone
Is it just me or is that colloidal compost website posted on the "other side" weird? It has no reference as to who owns it or any information about what it's purpose really is. All it seems to be trying to do is sell stuff.
There is a lot of basic composting information available there but it almost seems to be a cut and paste kind of website.
Call me a skeptic I guess.
Lloyd |
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- Posted by val_s z5 central IL (My Page) on
Tue, Jan 6, 09 at 10:35
| Well, to me it looks similar to a blog site. I didn't read every article but the few I read only had Google Ads on it. This is what reminds me of the free sites that I was talking about with Robert (soilguy). The truly annoying thing to me about the site is that his print is done in such a drained out color that I have a hard time reading it. Had to highlight it with the mouse in order to read it better. Also, on the colloidal link, it doesn't say how to make it or what makes it different. It just points to the other guys website that's trying to sell you his e-book or whatever. I got the impression from the original linked source that he just threw in the Colloidal Humus Compost on his site to try and cover all the basis but that he didn't really know much about it so he linked to the first place he could find (which was the other guy selling things). At least that's my impression. That's why I asked blutranes to clarify his position 'cause I didn't get much out of the link he provided. Val |
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| I am pretty skeptical of "buy this" to make "better" compost. If it ain't free, it ain't better. |
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- Posted by val_s z5 central IL (My Page) on
Wed, Jan 7, 09 at 10:57
| Hmmm...a skeptic, eh? Don't blame ya. I personally would like to see what colloidal humus compost looks like in person. It does sound interesting. After reading how blutranes makes his though I don't think I could. I can't save up enough stuff (except leaves) to build a pile all at once. Some of this stuff is really fascinating to read about as long as they don't go all scientific on me. It just goes to show that there is definitely more than one way to make compost...contrary to what some people think. Val |
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- Posted by pt03 3 Southern Manitoba (My Page) on
Wed, Jan 7, 09 at 11:54
| I find it interesting as well but is it really beneficial? If it made it easier to apply or handle I might be more interested but it just seems gimicky to me. After all it is just some material that has been composted and transformed into a clay or jelly like form. I don't get it. Lloyd |
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- Posted by val_s z5 central IL (My Page) on
Wed, Jan 7, 09 at 12:15
| Well, you bring up some good points I hadn't thought about. Why don't you ask him some of your questions. I'd be interested in how he responds. I guess really what I thought he was saying was that it's more concentrated? However, even he says that spreading it is kind of hard and he sometimes mixes it with regular compost to dry it out a bit but that as soon as you add water it goes back into its original state. For me, sometimes all of you guys are hard to follow at some point because I'm not an auditory person...I'm visual. So unless I can see and feel it and watch the process, I have a hard time following. It always amazes me when there is a post and I'm left scratching my head and then the next guy comes along and says "oh, you mean this, this and this" and the original guy goes "exactly". I'm still scratching my head going "huh?" Val |
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- Posted by pt03 3 Southern Manitoba (My Page) on
Wed, Jan 7, 09 at 13:19
| I'm mostly happy with what I am doing and how I'm doing it. If it had an end game benefit, I'd ask for more clarification but I just don't see it. Same with the charcoal discussion, I can't see anything in it. As far explanations, ya, I agree with you. I like to see pictures combined with an explanation, makes it so much easier for my poor little pea brain to comprehend. A big problem I have is personal definitions. Some folks use "finished compost" as if it means the same thing to all. The forum is full of people saying stuff that is clear in their own minds when they say it, but totally different from common useage. (vegetable waste comes to mind when the person meant vegetative waste). Lloyd |
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| I wouldn't necessarily dismiss colloidal compost as bad, but I would venture to say the effort, materials and time required to make compost colloidal is probably more than the "average" composter (especially the lazy ones like me) are willing to try. Which doesn't even consider the point whether the extra effort is worth the extra benefit... I doubt it. |
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- Posted by pt03 3 Southern Manitoba (My Page) on
Wed, Jan 7, 09 at 18:15
| I wouldn't dismiss this stuff as bad either and if I gave that impression it was purely unintentional. I just don't see a purpose to it. Compost tea I can understand because of the different method of application. Regular fine sifted compost I can apply by flinging it, shoveling it, roto-tilling it in or any other various methods. But a glob? I don't see how to apply it. Maybe I'm just too dense or I'm missing something. Lloyd |
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- Posted by val_s z5 central IL (My Page) on
Wed, Jan 7, 09 at 21:40
| Well...beings that I'm kind of new (compared to everyone else) to composting, it's kind of hard for me to get my head around as well. When I first started researching all you read about was "light, crumbly, fluffy). No where did I read "sticky, lumpy, clayish". But I'm always willing to learn. I'm actually glad he posted about it because it sounds like you can make it accidentally like PPPP did. Although I think his was just too much "greens". Dunno. I don't think your being dense at all because I too wondered how to use the glob. That's why I started asking but I don't think I'm any closer to knowing HOW to use than I was before. I can't do a huge operation like some of you can so I'll probably stick with how I do things now. Besides I don't need (even though I want) 25 drums of compost sitting around :-) Val |
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- Posted by pt03 3 Southern Manitoba (My Page) on
Fri, Feb 13, 09 at 10:16
| And then there is a forum participant that quite often posts inaccurate and misleading information even after it has been posted ad nauseum that what they say is false. Time after time I have seen people (myself included) question some of the theories and dissertations with either no response or a response so convoluted it borders on babble. Time after time I have seen people (myself included) ask for links backing up the often ludicrous claims with no response or the claim that links have been posted in the distant past that new people hadn't seen (also false). There have been enough queries from many people to see that some do not believe what this person posts. Yet, I am amazed that some people still consider anything this person says as trustworthy. I just don't get it, can anyone explain this cult like phenomenon? Or for that matter the continuing of the inaccurate posts? Why would a person do that? Lloyd P.S. Shoulda taken more physch courses I guess. |
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| I think most people take his word for it because they don't stick around along enough to tell who's full of manure and who's not. They hear someone speaking authoritatively and they just believe what he says. That's as much the fault of the person taking the advice as the person giving it. The world is full of so-called experts who are anything but experts. Maybe they speak well, maybe they make claims, and people follow like sheep. Listen to popular music and you will understand that people will follow or believe anything that is forced down their throats if it's done in a somewhat convincing manner. Don't let it bring you down. |
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| IMO, some people use the forum as some kind of a punching bag. Because in the real world he/she couldn't get to say anything w/o being told to shut up? Maybe, who knows. Otis |
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