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| This article from a UK paper hit my Arrrrgh! button....My Dad [real compost whacko] used to joke that we should just compost him, when he passed on. We didn't. I've made the same joke about my 'disposal' with my kids. They won't. Call us sentimental.
Crematorium wants to freeze dry bodies and use the dust as compost
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Here is a link that might be useful: Crematorium to compost?
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| Doesn't bother me. After the water is gone, it's just a bunch of very useful minerals. My wife says if she dies before me to just collect her ashes in a coffee can and spread them around the garden. |
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| Borderbarb, I sincerely hope that you live forever, and maintain all of your faculties and physical attributes while doing so. But there is a small chance that my hopes will be dashed, and you will find yourself declining. If that happens I can think of no better ending than to be turned into compost. I'm just as sentimental as you are. |
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| I do not care for the resomation process- dissolving a body and flushing it into the sewer but using liquid nitrogen and freezedrying seems to be a good alternative to cremation. I told my wife to cremate me and then spread me around the yard. She does not like the idea. But I'll probably outlive her so..... |
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- Posted by borderbarb (My Page) on Wed, Jan 5, 11 at 21:22
| We cremate in our family, so that part doesn't gross me out. Treating the disposal of remains in the way suggested in the article ... steps beyond my personal line. A little too SOILANT GREENish for me. My parent's ashes were scattered at sea [or so we were told] For myself, whatever is comforting to my kids, works for me. |
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| How weird, I was just thinking about how I want to end up this very afternoon. I settled on being hollowed out, stitched closed, and having a valve installed so that I can be inflated and used as a pool toy. (A close second was being filled with quick dry cement and dropped on people I didn't like when I was alive.) |
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| Both of my parents opted to be cremated and requested that the ashes be spread around a favored tree in their yard, which we did. That tree is growing better than ever today. |
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| I'd rather any method of disposal than being embalmed and then sealed in an overpriced airtight casket where I would anaerobically deliquesce into stinking slime. Last funeral I went to had a wicker coffin and cremation. Simple and effective. |
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| I'd rather any method of disposal than being embalmed and then sealed in an overpriced airtight casket where I would anaerobically deliquesce into stinking slime. Last funeral I went to had a wicker coffin and cremation. Simple and effective. |
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| I attended a composting seminar at the university a few years ago. One of the topics was on-site composting of large farm animals vs. taking them to the rendering plants. They used an 18" layer of wood chips beneath and covered the carcas with another 18" over the top. The chips provided the C and the carcas provided the N. After 6 months with normal rainfall only a few small pieces of the largest bones remained. Everything is eventually recycled no matter how we view it! hortster |
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- Posted by carmen_grower_2007 4/5 (My Page) on Thu, Jan 6, 11 at 15:07
| When a deer dies in our woods, he is left with only bones in less than a week. In a month there is no trace of his carcass. That is the way nature composts living things. When we bury a pet, we never dig a grave. We simply cover it lightly with leaves far into the woods where we don't have to view the remains being consumed. I am appalled at our way of burying the dead. They just take up space in the land when they are so valuable to the natural scheme of things. |
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| Mercy me. I just need to take a break.. This educational forum has turned to.... ....what to do when the dog poops, .... where to pee for optimum results, .... and where "compost" Grandma, I feel really blessed on the last few years knowledge from here.. but somewhere I have migrated away from the urge to see who said what from recent topics.......just me I guess.. |
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| "When a deer dies in our woods, he is left with only bones in less than a week. In a month there is no trace of his carcass." I've composted many small creatures in hot piles and noticed bones being persistent. |
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| Dead on alphonse. My hot pile doesn't even consume chicken wing bones. However, I found a spike buck skull in the woods (along with an arrow where some of the bones still sat) this early spring. I just stuck the think in a garden bed (decoration i guess?) and the mice and squirrels found it in a matter of days, consumed it almost entirely by summer's end...... As to the main topic..... My dad reminds me to compost him every time this topic comes up.... I doubt I could do it, but he's dead serious... no pun intended. That said, I tell him to do the same if I happen to meet my end first. The concept of traditional burial gives me the creeps. |
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- Posted by schreber_gaertner (My Page) on Fri, Jan 7, 11 at 12:00
| A gardener known for austerity, in his will showed surprising temerity. He bequeathed no cash, but wanted his ash composted for all of posterity. His shocked heirs then met with the lawyer, The group set a trap for their sister On the day that dad's ashes were dumped She survived, though, to their great dismay, Her pumpkin now grew with dad's care. (Sorry, couldn't resist re-posting this when I saw the subject of the thread) |
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- Posted by sylviatexas z8a Tx (My Page) on Fri, Jan 7, 11 at 12:24
| In this day & age, I don't think *anybody* really likes the idea of embalming & going into the ground to go through anaerobic decomposition. Some plans I've heard: My friend Paula, a horse lover, wants to be cremated & flung out in, seems like, North Dakota, where there are still herds of wild horses. My brother's wife says she's gonna have him stuffed & posed in his recliner, cigarette in one hand, beer can in the other. Another friend is to be buried in a plain pine box (she can't quite handle the thought of a cardboard coffin) on the farm that has been in her family for generations. I my own self always planned to have all the useable parts extracted (if someone's willing to donate his/her entire body to keep a part of me alive, I'm all for it!) & the remainder to be wrapped in an old quilt (cotton stuffing rots, polyester does not) & buried at my brother's place in the country, down by the creek, *but*... "being hollowed out, stitched closed, and having a valve installed so that I can be inflated and used as a pool toy. The idea has its charm. |
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- Posted by sylviatexas z8a Tx (My Page) on Fri, Jan 7, 11 at 12:28
| I got off the subject! I do like the idea of freeze-drying rather than cremating bodies, but I don't think any crematory is going to be able to sell people on the idea of soaking their loved one in alkaline solution & flushing the resulting goo down the commode. |
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- Posted by berryman135678 (My Page) on Fri, Jan 7, 11 at 13:22
| Ever since my neighbors across the street moved in and complained about my heating with wood, I have been considering composting them. I just cant decide if it would be better to shred them (like in Fargo) as they may break down faster or just leave them lie on the pile....... ...for those who don't know me, I am joking. |
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| Some men were carrying a dead body when the enemy approached. The men quickly threw the body in a cave. It so happened the the prophet Elisah's bones were under the dead body. The man came back to life because there was still annointing in those bones!! I believe that when the spirit leaves the body [for good] that it is minerals and such primarily, but I respect the spot. If I 'die' before the Lord returns, I prefer [not necessary though] a reference location for my resurrection. |
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- Posted by squirejohn 4 (My Page) on Sat, Jan 8, 11 at 7:26
| After finding out it cost about $2000 just to be creamated I decided to donate my body to Univ. Med. School. This includes free pick up of body and return of ashes. |
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| I always said I wanted to be buried face down with my butt above ground so that everyone can just kiss my a$$! Guys at work said that would be great as the cemetary needed a good bike stand! Ouch. :-) Lloyd |
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| OK Lloyd, which meaning is intended? Is it " someone awesome that shouldn't be messed with?" |
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| Huh?? There was no "meaning", it's humour.
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| Just curious why "desolute" makes an appearance in lieu of 2b Southern Manitoba. |
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| Humour again, back in the early eighties I was posted to a place called Resolute Bay way up on those islands at the top of North America on most globes/atlases. We called it Desolute Bay as a play on desolate. In the winter it's extremely cold and dark and that is what the weather was like when I posted that one. Obviously my humour needs some tweaking. This kinda reminds me of the time I said I had no more friends left since I took up composting and then mentioned that it took about six months in a hot pile. Only a few got that one. Lloyd |
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- Posted by compogardenermn 4 (My Page) on Mon, Jan 10, 11 at 12:12
| I too wish there was a means to more properly dispose of the dead than pumping them full of formaldehyde and sealing them up inside a casket and then inside a concrete vault- what a waste of resources! I understand it will probably never be accepted by society to compost our remains when we die, but I wish there was that option. I'm reminded of the book 'The Secret Life of Compost' by Malcolm Beck; he wishes for his body to be "dressed in a white linen or cotton gown and then, if necessary, held in cold storage until (he) can be gently placed on a warm bed of compost that no longer has a foul odor but is still microbially active. Then (his) living relatives and friends could use shovels and buckets to cover (him) with a thick blanket of more warm, active compost. During this laying and covering process the religious rituals would be performed... so (his) elements and energy can be distributed over the land to start the timeless cycling journey through higher and higher forms of life. Then finally, once again, the highest form of life." |
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| In Dead Earnest If I should die before I wake, |
Here is a link that might be useful: Lee Hays
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| Lloyd, gotcha ya Thought it might have been a portmanteau but given the location of coining, maybe closer to "refudiate". Your humour is fine. Sincerely, Tweaked |
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- Posted by sylviatexas z8a Tx (My Page) on Tue, Jan 11, 11 at 14:54
| When you sign the agreement to donate your body to science, be sure that the institution will handle whatever remains once they've finished; I just read about a medical school calling someone & saying something like "We're through with your grandma, come get what's left". You want to be sure your relatives won't get a shocking call long after they think they've seen the last of you! |
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- Posted by nancyjeanmc (My Page) on Tue, Jan 11, 11 at 16:08
| Doesn't bother me, at all. Berryman ... Shred. Always shred. The evidence will decompose faster. Wayne ... If the Lord should tarry, and we go before He returns, He'll find us. ;) Sylvia ... Thanks for the warning. Although I must admit, I do get a twinge of pleasure when they realize there's just no getting rid of me. A bit of a segue ... Our very much loved dog died last August, and we had him cremated. His favorite place to be was Ocean Grove, NJ, and, come spring, I will put his remains into my garden. I know it isn't "him," but I think of how many hours he spent on the porch or in the yard watching me garden and it just seems right. |
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- Posted by gooseberryfool Zone 6b (My Page) on Wed, Jan 12, 11 at 8:22
| The subject matter does not bother me. We really ought to be talking about things. Death is a part of life that, in our kind of culture, is swept under the rug and kept as unobtrusive as possible. But we will all face it. We ought to know our choices and make the best one. Both for burial and what comes after death. That's an interesting proposition. Truly, that's what is supposed to happen to bodies; decompose and be re-used. But I probably would not go that way myself. There is something to be said for traditional dignity and teaching the young that life is more than just recycled chemicals. However, I can easily see that if someone believes that's all human life is, it would be a logical next step. There are a couple of great books I have, "Caring for Your Own Dead" and "The American Way of Life and Death". Both of these are eye openers on the funeral industry and how to not only save money, but dignity. Thinking of donating your body to science? "Stiff; the Curious Lives of Human Cadavers" might change your mind, if you have the idea that your body will lay on the table to be examined in med school. Most cadavers are used in very... unexpected ways. As for me, I want a simple hole dug on my land, wrap my night gowned body in a simple sheet the same day I die. Cover me with a mound of dirt and walk away. I'm not there. Don't come and visit my grave. I'm not there and I'll be really mad at the time and tears anyone wasted visiting a storage pit. If the curious eyes of people make them feel the need to do SOMETHING, they can plant a Rose of Sharon bush on top. That's a nickname for the One who has victory over death and freed me from the grave. I'll be seeing them soon. :o) |
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| Well said and Amen! You wrote what I feel about death and the here-after. |
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- Posted by sylviatexas z8a Tx (My Page) on Thu, Jan 13, 11 at 19:00
| "Lots of food, lots of singing, lots of dancing and joy" & they can pour the warm beer & wine over you, & scrape the plates, & please, somebody remember to bring wood chips for the top dressing! |
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- Posted by gooseberryfool Zone 6b (My Page) on Fri, Jan 14, 11 at 9:02
| OK Now that's gross! LOL |
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| OMG, this has been hilarious to read. I started saying when I was back in my 30's that I wanted to be cremated and have my ashes spread in Armstrong Grove up by the Russian River in N. Cal. It is such a lovely place and to think that I could nourish a redwood tree must be the highest calling on earth. I haven't changed my mind especially after my mother died of dementia in 2000. I had to go to the funeral home and make arrangements of course. My mom had a plot next to my dad at Golden Gate Cemetary just above San Bruno,CA but after hearing all the arrangements of embalming, the casket, flying her body from So Cal to No Cal, someone to meet the casket, take it to the cemetary, schedule a grave digging and get the casket, on the proper date, at the proper time, to the cemetary, I thought "oh, this will just get really screwed up." I thought of the phone call I'd get about how the timing wasn't right, blah, blah, another try on such and such a day. I thought "oh s$$$, no way." I had her cremated locally, picked out a box that was probably Fed Ex'd and within just a matter of days I received notice that my mother's box was buried, next to my dad and all was well. So, so much easier and so much less expensive and I felt just great after receiving the notification. National cemetaries are very, very efficient. Yup spread me around the redwood trees, let me be apart of one or two of those big giants. Lovely. |
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| That is GREAT! and that is exactly wat I want done with my body after I pass. OK idk about the freezing my body part and using the dust, but I would definitely want to go back to the earth (I was actually thinking of maybe a grinder?). It irks me wat a big waste it is that all this organic material is put into painted boxes and put into a ground that nothing but useless grass is grown on. I just want to be dumped in a hole and let nature take its course (preferably in small peices so that the nutrients are available faster for the things that are actually still living, unlike my empty shell) . |
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- Posted by nancyjane_gardener USDA 8ish No CA (My Page) on Thu, Feb 23, 12 at 21:16
| Well, my whole family goes for creamation (after any donation, of course). DH wants his little tiny skull donated to a Shakespear Company. Then we will be scattered out under the "Family Plot" the Golden Gate Bridge! Can you think of a better grave marker? Being a 10 year swimming teacher in my youth, I kind of liked the pool toy idea, BUT it's not a good idea to have little ones rely on inflatable toys instead of learning to swim! Or they might also become an inflatable! (ohhhh, BADDDDD) So with us it will be the GGBridge and, I think, a bit of compost! Nancy |
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- Posted by rusteddave (My Page) on Sat, Mar 10, 12 at 22:39
| Check out this web site, not a garden site but follows the current theme! http://www.orderofthegooddeath.com/ |
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