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Mulch alternatives? Weed control + free range chickens???

Posted by diannelmt 6 (My Page) on
Sun, Jan 24, 10 at 14:11

I have a 14 acre property with major landscaping, cottage style and english gardens. My backyard is completely landscaped with only grass pathways.

My problem is weed control, of course, and I need to define the bed borders. I also keep free range chickens who make a big mess of tanbark or any other lightweight mulch! They take dust baths every afternoon and dig holes in the mulch and toss it out into the grass.

I need ideas for mulching materials that are inexpensive (since I have so much ground to cover) will help control weeds and would be difficult for the chickens to make a mess!


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RE: Mulch alternatives? Weed control + free range chickens???

Wow... good question. First of all, majorly jealous of the chickens. :) I plan to have them one day when I am able. And I can imagine that they make quite a mess!

Here's an idea off the top of my head... pea gravel comes to mind, as it's attractive and pretty heavy. Obviously it's not very weed proof, but laying down a sheet of black garden fabric or even plastic would keep weeds down and moisture levels up.

I know you have an extensive garden, but would placing fake snakes in certain areas help? To keep them away? Wait... that sounds kind of mean though. :P


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RE: Mulch alternatives? Weed control + free range chickens???

Pea gravel is no more chicken proof then wood chips and the chickens will tear any most any plastic apart with ease. Confining the chickens to a chicken tractor, so you can control where they go but still allow them ground contact, would allow you to control what they do and when they do it better. But there is no mulch, that is worthwhile, will be impervious to chicken attack.


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RE: Mulch alternatives? Weed control + free range chickens???

About the only thing that comes to mind is descent sized rock.


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RE: Mulch alternatives? Weed control + free range chickens???

I agree with kimmsr. There is no mulch that free-range chickens won't scatter, and there is no young plant that free-range chickens can't, and won't, either eat or uproot. I, too, had this little pastoral fantasy about multi-colored chickens ranging about the yard. (Think William Carlos Williams.) I don't think you can imagine my shock that first summer of coming home to find an entire perennial garden ripped up and overturned, chickens on their sides, kicking up compost.

I tractor the birds now in the summer, although I do let them out to Totally Destroy my yard in the fall. I may try ducks next. I've heard they're gentle on gardens and hard on slugs.


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RE: Mulch alternatives? Weed control + free range chickens???

After reading Omnivore's Dilemma and visualizing Joel Saladin's chicken tractor, I talked my husband into building a chicken tractor for my 7 girls. I pulled them up and down the side yard daily for weeks. They didn't eat any less chicken feed, lay any more eggs or express their undying gratitude. Instead they dug a hole in the lawn EVERY day in a new spot. I had to abandon my great experiment, fill in all the holes and try to get some more grass to grow. So think a bit about the tractor before going to all that trouble.


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RE: Mulch alternatives? Weed control + free range chickens???

You could just choose an area for the chickens. You've got 14 acres so there's plenty of space. Fence it in a portion and redo the landscaping in that area to something they can not easily destroy. My neighbor has 3 chickens fenced into their back yard on about 1/8 acre. They rarely stray so long as there's a fence around them. Most of it is chain link from adjoining properties, but some of it is simple black netting about 3' tall.


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RE: Mulch alternatives? Weed control + free range chickens???

I, too, as a sadder but wiser gardener/chicken mama. My ladies were allowed to free range--for a while. After they tried to make nests in the ornamental grasses, rearranged the mulch, dug holes in the paths and ate most of my Peruvian Rock Rose, they were confined.
We now have a large outdoor coop of 2'x4's and chicken wire, with a top on it (hawks) that they enjoy during the day. I toss hay into it every once in a while, and they like to rearrange the hay as much as they enjoyed tossing mulch. I don't think there is a chicken-proof mulch except asphalt.


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RE: Mulch alternatives? Weed control + free range chickens???

Wow! Now I'm feeling pretty lucky about my situation. I haven't had any trouble at all with my chickens eating plants they shouldn't, or uprooting anything. They just like to take dust baths in the afternoon and throw the mulch outside the bed borders, that's the only problem I have, they're really not destructive otherwise. They have a 8x10 coop and a 10x10 covered run, but we like to let them free range so they eat the ticks and bugs. Oh yeah, and snakes, they are not at all afraid of snakes, they kill those too! We've had no problems with japanese beetles at all since we've had the chickens. They also got rid of the carpenter bees that were boring holes in my barn!

I think part of the reason they are less destructive is because I always leave the coop door open and the tube feeder is constantly full, so they aren't ravenous when they are let outside! Or maybe its the breed??

I was thinking of rubber edging and a heavier 3/4 inch landscape stone that would be harder for them to kick around and if they do, I can always rake it back into place.

I guess I should be grateful that I've got such good girls! They seem like they are doing more good than harm compared to some!


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RE: Mulch alternatives? Weed control + free range chickens???

The chickens I had years ago were not destructive either. I let them have the back 2' or so of the perennial beds for their dust bath area. Not a great place to grow with the roof overhang anyhow and hidden by the plants in front. The only messes they made were their droppings on the patio but a quick daily washing with the hose cleaned that up.


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Mine can go anywhere in the yard they want---I quit having a lawn years ago---but what they really want to do is get in the soft, wormy, island gardens placed about. Last year I planted Blue Hubbards---for them, mind you---and they ate every blosssom the minute it unfurled. I finally put fencing down on top of the plants and was able to get 5 slightly pecked squash to maturity.

They don't really uproot established perennials. They dig all around their bases, leaving the root-exposed plant sitting up in the air on its crown. Any newly planted seedling is uprooted and replanted at least six times before I either give up or wrap chicken wire around the plants.


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RE: Mulch alternatives? Weed control + free range chickens???

You might want to combine a chicken tractor with sheet mulching of all your yard wastes and food scraps, as described in this article. I think if they have enough organic matter to scratch through they might not dig such big holes, as happened to NHGardener?

http://www.themodernhomestead.us/article/Composter+Chickens.html
The Lazy Gardener’s Compost Heap

(From a reader): Connected to our six-hen flock’s coop is an 8x4-ft run completely surrounded by 2x4-inch welded wire. (This includes the floor of the run, to exclude digging predators.) In this run we put everything that gets weeded from the garden, thinnings, some leaves, ears of corn that have been molested by raccoons, grass clippings, kitchen wastes—you get the idea. After each layer, I scatter oyster shell. Our hens stay very entertained digging through their sometimes three-foot-deep pile of goodies. The worms and bugs come naturally…About once every month we transfer our new fertile soil to the regular compost pile. Our garden loves it. I love not stirring or messing with the compost pile. Our yolks are school-bus orange-yellow and delicious. ~Nancy Muller, Dalton, Pennsylvania

Here is a link that might be useful: The Lazy Gardener's Compost Heap


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RE: Mulch alternatives? Weed control + free range chickens???

Two things to consider, and both involve confinement.

One is a chicken moat. This is usually along mesh tunnel installed around the inside of a perimeter fence, and can be about three feet wide. It gives them room to run, and they destroy all the running grass and weeds that creep over from the neighbors' places.

The other is movable electrical netting. This is very useful for the larger breeds of chickens that aren't much on flying, and it keeps mammal-type (and marsupial) predators out, although not hawks. I believe there are also solar chargers for them.

The only mulch that will work with them is large rocks, weighing at least half a pound each, or galvanized chicken wire covered with a think layer of mulch. They aren't crazy about scratching in wire mesh.

Sue

Here is a link that might be useful: Electric poultry netting


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RE: Mulch alternatives? Weed control + free range chickens???

Well, my chickens do have the barnyard to dust bathe in. I put 2B limestone around the edges of the chicken's run so that they couldn't dig around the perimeter and make holes big enough for the baby chicks to escape. It worked too, they won't dig in anything as big as 2B limestone. I think that if I were to mulch with a landscape stone close to a 2B size, that would be enough of a deterent that they would just dust bathe in the barnyard. Now I'm just trying to weigh the pros and cons of landscape stone. I do have a lot of bulbs and plants that get cut back to the ground, go completely dormant and some that reseed themselves. Would landscape stone deter some of my plants from poking through the ground in the spring? That is another reason I'm not able to put down weed cloth, or black plastic sheeting, I would be killing a lot of plants that way, so I'm thinking, stone would be my best alternative. I also need a more permanent mulch, other than bark, since I have so much area to cover, I don't want to have to re-mulch year after year, or even every couple of years, it would be a big expense and a big chore!


 
 

 

 


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