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Wood ash/Epsom and worms

tomtuxman
14 years ago

Will adding wood ash and/or Epsom salts to my compost pile/pit have a good or bad effect on my worm population?

My finished compost tends to be quite acidic, resulting from lots and lots of leaves and pine needles. I need to sweeten it up a bit, and wood ash and Epsom were suggestions.

However, I have a very fine large worm colony in my pile/pit, and I would not want to do anything deleterious to these special helpers.

Comments (12)

  • ericwi
    14 years ago

    If the compost pile is healthy and producing compost, I personally would be reluctant to add anything like wood ashes or epsom salts. However, if I was trying to grow something that required alkaline soil, and a pH test showed the soil to be on the acid side, then adding wood ashes to the soil makes sense. It happens that our native soil is alkaline, around 7.6 pH, so we never have to raise the pH with ashes or anything else. Keeping a compost pile working through the Wisconsin winter is a challenge in itself, and therefore I would not want to add anything that might slow it down.

  • Kimmsr
    14 years ago

    Earthworms are not significant digesters of compost, and compost is near neutral when finished even if it is composed of mostly Oak leaves and Pine needles. Wood ashes tend to cause the bacteria that do digest the material you put in to compost to slow down and none of the studies I have seen indicate wood ashes do anything worthwhile to the composting process.
    Epsom Salts are Magnesium Sulfate and the only reason to add them would be to correct a lack of Magnesium in your soil, but that would require a lot of Epsom Salts and there are much less expensive ways to do that.
    If you have a lot of worms in your compost that may be an indication the material is too wet, since the earthworms need a fairly moist environment to exist.

  • container_blueberry
    14 years ago

    Why not use crushed egg shells?

    That should raise the ph a bit. I have also heard it helps the worms lay eggs.

  • tedsfarms
    14 years ago

    I have not played with this question to form an answer. I keep the wood ash in pails only for dipping my new potato quartered seedlings before planting. The crushed egg shells work good for the grit in the worms digestion. Like stones in a birds gizzard. As mentioned above, I would not think that you would have to add anything special. Although the stalls have lime mixed in with the other that gets piled onto the compost as well.

  • jonas302
    14 years ago

    If you have wood ash I wouldn't be scared to add some as with everything in moderation

    Compost ideally is neutral not acid when its done but that doesn't mean yours isn't to acid

  • Belgianpup
    14 years ago

    Before you add anything, why not have some of your compost tested to see what it's pH is? Microbial activity will sometimes change acidic ingredients to neutral, and if that has happened to your compost, adding ashes might be counter-productive. A little Epsom salts may be beneficial, IF your compost needs it. Since you have lots of leaves in your compost, it's possible that their roots have 'mined' some magnesium from deeper in the soil (if it's there), so adding more might be overdoing it.

    Contact your local Cooperative Extension (Agriculture) and ask them who does soil testing, or just look in your Yellow Pages under 'Soil Testing'. Call and ask if they test compost, and the proper way to collect a sample.

    Sue

  • mndhaynes31_gmail_com
    13 years ago

    Hello ! I was wondering, if I burned all of the needles and oak tree leaves during my "Spring Cleaning" what exactly would the ashes be good for?

  • Kimmsr
    13 years ago

    A lot less then would the leaves and pine needles would be becuase you would burn many of the nutrients that are in those leaves and meedles, a waste. In addition burning them produces prodigous quantities of air pollution.
    Compost those leaves and pine needles instead of burning them.

  • pnbrown
    13 years ago

    Kimm, coud you tell me about the much less expensive ways to raise low Mag? I need to raise it a lot in some of my soils, so I am all ears.

  • dpeacock123
    9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I've heard Epsom salts are really good for vegetable garden plants, but is it safe for earthworms.? I have alot of them and love the way they aerate my soil.

  • kimmq
    9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Epsom Salts, Magnesium Sulfate, are touted as a magic elixar by many but the reality is they do not do what is promised. Maybe, possibly, if the soil is deficient in Magnesium or Sulfur, or both, Epsom Salts might be of some help but not in the usually dose of 1 tablespoon per gallon of water. At that strength there is not enough of either Mg or S to begin to make much difference. With 10 percent Magnesium and 13 percent Sulfur one tablespoon of the product will do little for a deficiency, one would need pounds to make a difference.

    If the gardens soil does have a deficiency of Magnesium then an application of Dolomitic Lime would be of more use. If the soil is deficient of Sulfur then an application of elemental Sulfur would be of more value, using a good reliable soil test as a guide for application.

    Adding organic material to the soil will also help. Perhaps this article will be of some help,

    http://puyallup.wsu.edu/~Linda%20Chalker-Scott/Horticultural%20Myths_files/Myths/Epsom%20salts.pdf

    I can find nothing on what, if any, adverse affects Epsom Salts might have on earthworms, but since it is also recommended for use as an insecticide there most likely will be harm to them.

    kimmq is kimmsr

  • toxcrusadr
    8 years ago

    I agree, don't add minerals touted as being good for the garden unless you know your soil is deficient. Compost contains a full range of minerals and will also increase the availability of minerals already present in the soil. Better to spend $ getting a reliable lab soil test so you know where your soil really stands.