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sod pieces and some clay to just started composter?
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Tue, Feb 28, 12 at 18:14
| I am enlarging an existing garden by digging up some of the surrounding lawn. It is a small enough job that I will do it by hand shovel. I plan to dig down just enough to remove the sod and then I will add soil to make a raised bed. If I break up the sod into smaller chunks can I add it to my recently started 14 cu ft wooden enclosed composter? I guess it wouldnt be advisable not to add too much of this at once? |
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RE: sod pieces and some clay to just started composter?
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| Sod is usually good, and a bit of clay won't hurt, but it makes for heavier turning. The addition of a little native soil adds microbes and nutrients to the mix. Thin layers are always advised as opposed to heavy. |
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| bi1 1me wrote: but it makes for heavier turning For sure a good point. I guess I may need to make a pile of sod and clay near the bin and add it bit by bit throughout the spring/summer. |
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| Its the hard way to expand a garden bed. I would leave the soil and the sod in place, smother it with cardboard and or mulch, and then plant on top. Its much easier. If you've already removed the soil, you can put it your compost.... but do you have some place else that needs some soil. When digging, I usually find someplace else in my yard that needs a bit of fill. Composting the clay soil will lighten it up. I had clump of clay stuck in my bulb hole planter. I got frustrated, leaned it up against the shed, and then forgot about it. The clay turned rock hard and was cemented to the metal. I put the entire tool in the compost pile with the handle sticking out. A week later the clay was much lighter (and moist) and slid right out. |
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| joepyeweed wrote: I would leave the soil and the sod in place, smother it with cardboard and or mulch, and then plant on top. I think I would but I was under the impression that doing such would mean that the area would not be ready for planting for ...many months? And if I did prepare the new garden as you describe then does one put (so much) soil on top of the cardboard so that when digging holes for the plants that one does not dig through the cardboard? If true then that would be a lot of soil? |
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| Composing sod is the way that nurseries made potting soil a century ago. They would have sod fields growing and renewed for this very purpose. |
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| Just a thought, soil in the bin slows down your heat in hot composting. I avoid soil or only use small amounts of it in the bins. |
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| Given the location of this composter i.e. next to the house, on interlock and in the shade, I am thinking this isn't a prime candidate for "hot composting"? |
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| You can plant immediately in a bed prepared with cardboard, or newspaper, and mulch. If I am going to plant right away, I might use several layers of newspaper instead of cardboard. The newspaper is easy to cut into for planting holes. |
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| There is no reason why you can't compost near a house. I do hot composting in the shade no problems there. In the sun is better, but not critical. In fact, hot compost has much less insect life then cold. The heat keeps away ants and flies. As long as it's not over watered, it won't have fungus gnats. But, interlock is stumping me. I don't know what you mean by interlock. |
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| Thanks tropical. By "interlock" I just meant that the composter is positioned on top of a hard interlock brick path. |
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| That may cause poor drainage, can you put it on the ground? That is much better for hot and cold composting. Ideally the ground you put it on should also be well draining. |
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| I understand it is preferable to have it on a dirt base but my residential property is lacking in yard space so I think this is better than nothing: 
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| It will be fine there. That's a handsome bin, btw. |
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| Just don't over water it. It easy to add water, but hard to take it away, so start with way less water then you think you need. |
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| For that bin, a little sod and clay won't hurt the mix, but it's best not to introduce too much soil, in order to have more room for other ingredients. There is no reason you couldn't do hot composting in that location, but you may soon be wishing you had another bin to turn if that fills too fast. Shake off most of the dirt back into the garden before adding the sod to the bin - what remains on the clumps will be plenty to add microorganisms to the mix. |
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| For all of my garden beds (standard perennial and raised for veggies) i just turned the sod over and added soil/compost/etc on top. This quickly smothers out a majority of the grass in quick order. The house is newer so the "soil" below the sod is just fill clay. So I figured i might as well just keep it there... i can only help... as long as you don't plan on tilling in your new amendments. Obviously if you plant immediately you might run to some of overturned sod, but it's easy enough to rebury as needed to smother it. When i have thrown sod clumps (with clay dirt attached) into my compost, the worms just love it. After a few weeks when i go to turn the pile, there will be hundreds of worms swarming the sod/clay dirt. They appear to be standard earth worms vs the red wigglers though... which are through out the whole pile. I break them up when i turn and don't seem to have any issues of the pile cooling down noticeably. |
RE: sod pieces and some clay to just started composter?
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| bi11me I will for sure be adding an identical compost bin right next to this existing one sometime in the next couple of months. |
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