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To till or not to till...

Posted by Matt139 none (My Page) on
Sun, Feb 2, 14 at 20:09

Hi, I am a new gardener/farmer, and I am trying to start growing carrots and shallots for market/wholesale. I'm a little confused on what is the best way for someone to take care of their soil. I was going to try to make my farm organic as possible (seeds might not be organic, use natural fertilizers that are not omri approved etc.) and I know that in itself is good for the soil. My question is, how should I go about tilling. Since it is a mostly clay soil I am working with, I was figuring on adding perlite this year before planting,(perlite and woodchips on land that wont be planted) and then adding organic materials after the season by tilling it in, and then next year tilling before and after again, but is this a bad idea?

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RE: To till or not to till...

#1 Start a compost pile if you have not already done so.
#2 Remove all weeds weed roots & traces of weeds & grass in the area that will be planted. Use a spade & double dig it you have to. This will loosen the clay soil for your carrots & other root vegetables.
#3 Dont wait to add organic matl. begin as soon as the weeds are gone.
Consider planting a nitrogen fixing cover crop that will make a good compost green, like peas.
These are only my suggestions, I have clay soil as well & the above worked very well for my needs. Part of the fun & satisfaction of it all is learning as you go & determining what works best for your needs. Hope this helps.

RE: To till or not to till...

You may need to till organic matter in to your clay soil once, but if due care is used tilling most likely will not be necessary as long as you do nothing to cause that soil to become compacted.
Perlite is a mineral used in potting soils to promote drainage. It does not contribute anything in the nutrient area and to make much difference in the garden a very large amount will be needed. Far better is to spend you money, if necessary, on organic matter.
Keep in mind that Ma Nature has been at work making soil for far longer then we have and she does not spend money on exotic materials. Ma Nature takes the mineral portion of soil she finds anywhere and adds organic matter to that soil and then grows plants.

RE: To till or not to till...

You may want to read into some of the work Ruth Stout does with her no till/mulch heavy approach. Gardening Without Work is one of her books and it is a must read and it has changed my perspective on traditional tilling in organic material and even fertilizing with conventional "organic" fertilizers

RE: To till or not to till...

"Ma Nature takes the mineral portion of soil she finds anywhere and adds organic matter to that soil and then grows plants."

kimmsr -- love this simple way of putting it!

RE: To till or not to till...

I'd say only till as deep as you have to and never deeper. Tilling(even the shallowest kind) is better than no-till in MOST situations, especially when you're also mixing in organic fertilizer and compost at the same time.

RE: To till or not to till...

+1 what kimmsr said.

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