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How to Enrich Soil for Sowing?

Posted by KendraSchmidt none (My Page) on
Wed, Feb 29, 12 at 20:44

I have two raised beds from last year that i abandoned sadly enough. They still have saggy collard greens in them that seem too have died, and some old, dried up vining from a bad attempt at growing beans.

I'd like to maybe use the soil in those two beds for something (though I haven't decided what yet), but I've completely neglected the beds. Can I do something to prepare or REPAIR the soil in those beds? It's simply store bought soil and I do not have access to compost, so that's not an option for me yet.

What should I put in those two beds to enrich the soil for early spring sowing? Please help!


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RE: How to Enrich Soil for Sowing?

  • Posted by jolj 7b/8a-S.C.USA (My Page) on
    Wed, Feb 29, 12 at 21:00

First what did your soil test say.
Then what kind of soil do you have, clay?
I say clay, because you said saggy(poor drainage).
Or are you in a swamp?
Are you a till or a no-till gardener?
Do you have a compost pile?
Tell us what kind of raised bed you have.
And as always, one photo is worth 1000 words.


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RE: How to Enrich Soil for Sowing?

Jolj the soil is store-bought soil purchased from a garden soil. The greens are sagging because they've pretty much died in the bed (at least I'm assuming that's why, they were big and vibrant prior to the frost and snowstorms).

I'm not in a swamp, the soil here isn't clay, but it's not sandy either; and I don't have compost at all. :o( I don't till usually but I tilled the soil in the raised beds once, when I first planted last season, and the soil in the raised beds is store-bought quality. It's not sandy loam. I don't have a soil tester. :o(

My raised beds are six inches above ground and filled with the store-bought soil.


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RE: How to Enrich Soil for Sowing?

Yank out the plants (put them on your brand new compost heap, or bury them in a tranch in the bed) till lightly and plant again.

Soil doesn't 'wear out" with one crop of collards.


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I've heard that peas can help the soil.

Might want to plant a bunch of them and then till them into the soil in a couple months?????


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If you only have access to what they have at the store, and you're willing to buy a few more things, you can probably find things like composted manure. I've used bags of that in the past, to give a head start in a new bed. I spread it on top and work it into the soil, or if I'm starting a new bed, I mix it in with the other stuff before filling.

Do you drink coffee? Or do you work in someplace where people drink coffee? Would you be willing to stop by a local coffee shop and asked for used grounds? Used coffee grounds are great for your soil, and you can just spread them on top or work them in.

You say you don't have access to compost, but would you consider starting a pile or a bin? It's easier than you may think, and your kitchen scraps and yard trimmings ought to go somewhere, right? This won't give you an garden amendments today, but you'll have them eventually.

Manure can be a great addition to a compost pile, and is easier to acquire than you might think. Even in the city, for instance, you'll find people raising rabbits. Urban chickens are more common than they once were. If you're outside of the city, you really just need to ask around (or check Craigslist), and you'll find plenty of free sources. If you're thinking, "I can't haul that, I don't have a truck!" you can always get some big plastic bins, and haul smaller amounts that way (without mucking up the inside of your car).

Personally, I use aged rabbit manure directly in the garden, though others might compost it first. When I end up with fresh manure, I put it in with the compost.


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Leira, I have a 1.5 liter bottle of dried tea leaves (from used teabags) and finely crushed eggshells. I've been told this is good for tomatoes, which is why I saved it over the past few months, but is it ideal for other crops? Maybe only for acidic crops?

I also have a large sack of peels from various types of bananas that I've eaten. I have two sacks actually: the first sack contains charred banana peels that I placed in the oven and charred; I was told I should add that directly to my compost bin when I finally have one, which is why I've been saving the charred banana peelings.

The second sack of banana peels are simply air-dryed peelings. They're not charred like the first sack.

For both sacks, I grounded each up finely to a near soil-like texture.

Can any of these items be added to my soil to fertilize it naturally? The soil here wasn't taken care of well enough to begin with, and i'm worried that the ground soil might not crank out much fruiting.

I've seen some manure in the sacks at the garden store, but I've been forbidden to use it because of the smell. :o(


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RE: How to Enrich Soil for Sowing?

Properly composted materials, including manures, have no inherent bad smells. If it smells bad, it shouldn't go in the garden, or even in a poorly managed compost pile, but well-composted commercial products won't offend your sensitive nose.


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RE: How to Enrich Soil for Sowing?

First you need to have a good, reliable soil test done to find out what that soils pH is and what the levels and ratios of Phosphorus, Potash, Calcium, Magnesium might be. Then you need to look at the soil closely to see how much organic matter is there, how well that soil drains, how well the soil retains moisture, how the soil handles (tilth), what that soil smells like, and what kind of life is in that soil. These simple soil tests can help.
1) Structure. From that soil sample put enough of the rest to make a 4 inch level in a clear 1 quart jar, with a tight fitting lid. Fill that jar with water and replace the lid, tightly. Shake the jar vigorously and then let it stand for 24 hours. Your soil will settle out according to soil particle size and weight. A good loam will have about 1-3/4 inch (about 45%) of sand on the bottom. about 1 inch (about 25%) of silt next, about 1 inch (25%) of clay above that, and about 1/4 inch (about 5%) of organic matter on the top.

2) Drainage. Dig a hole 1 foot square and 1 foot deep and fill that with water. After that water drains away refill the hole with more water and time how long it takes that to drain away. Anything less than 2 hours and your soil drains� too quickly and needs more organic matter to slow that drainage down. Anything over 6 hours and the soil drains too slowly and needs lots of organic matter to speed it up.

3) Tilth. Take a handful of your slightly damp soil and squeeze it tightly. When the pressure is released the soil should hold together in that clump, but when poked with a finger that clump should fall apart.

4) Smell. What does your soil smell like? A pleasant, rich earthy odor? Putrid, offensive, repugnant odor? The more organic matter in your soil the more active the soil bacteria will be and the nicer your soil will smell.

5) Life. How many earthworms per shovel full were there? 5 or more indicates a pretty healthy soil. Fewer than 5, according to the Natural Resources Conservation Service, indicates a soil that is not healthy.


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Bags of dehydrated or composted manure from the store, as others have said, don't smell. Don't worry about that.

My experience is that aged rabbit manure doesn't smell, either (or at least it definitely doesn't smell bad, or strongly). I have less experience with other manures, but after it's composted, or even when it's just well aged, it won't smell.

Yes, tea leaves and egg shells and banana peels are great for the garden (many plants, not just a couple of kinds of plants), though I usually send them through the compost first. When I used bagged tea, I send tea bags into the compost whole (though if they have a plastic tag, I'll remove it)...the rest will break down in the compost. If you're not going to compost them, I'd get them into the dirt sooner rather than later, because they won't be really useful until after they've broken down. You might consider putting them out immediately rather than stockpiling them -- some people bury kitchen scraps directly in the garden, but I don't really know the details, so you should figure out the best ways to go about this.

I also put egg shells in my compost, but you can't expect them to break down into nothingness at the same rate as kitchen scraps. They take a while to break down, but over time, the minerals are leached out, and the shells become thinner and weaker, until eventually they break down and you can't see them any more. I just toss them into the compost as-is, which usually means in halves. When (if?) I turn the compost, I may poke at them with a pitchfork, or crush one in my hand. You know, if I feel like it. The longer they've been in the compost, the thinner and weaker they are. My Spring garden always has bits of egg shell scattered across it, but now that I think about it, my Fall garden never does.

I think you're on the right track, but I also think you're doing both too much and too little. I say too much, because I think you're going to much more effort with your scraps (charring, grinding, etc.) than you need to, and it's probably not worth the effort. I say too little, because if you want to amend your soil organically, you probably want more volume than that.

In order to get started this year, I'd suggest that if you can't find another source, that you re-think the bagged products (such as manures, though sometimes you can find things labeled "compost") from your local garden center. While they may not be odorless, they won't *stink*. I promise. See what people have to offer on Craigslist, too, because you might be surprised. This will give you a boost while you get your own compost going, and research other sources.

Meanwhile, get a compost bin or pile going. I don't know where you live (state, city/country, etc.), so I don't know what to recommend, but there are lots of options. I live in the city, so I use garbage can compost bins, which I make by taking a 32-gallon garbage can, and drilling 1/4"-1/2" holes all over. The size is just right for my family and my yard (I don't have the volume for a more traditional pile). If you have a larger space, a more traditional compost pile (or something semi-enclosed with wooden pallets or chicken wire) might make more sense. Either way, none of these approaches is difficult, or expensive. Just do it! Take today's banana peels and tea leaves, and START. Eventually you'll have compost.


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If commercial products smelled that bad, the whole gardening department at every store would smell like a feedlot, and it doesn't. This can also be proven by a sniff test of a torn bag of which there are always several in the store.

The truth is a proper compost pile does not smell, and the composting process results in a nice earthy smelling product regardless of the inputs if done right. And it's not that hard to do right.

I'm with leira, get started composting! Stop spending time dehydrating banana peels and ramp this sucker up. :-]


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RE: How to Enrich Soil for Sowing?

Okay Leira and Tox, I'll go to the garden store tomorrow and look for some dehydrated manure (I didn't even know that existed) and I'll also find something to hold my compost and start a compost pile. I appreciate everyone's help, thank you!


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