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| I have some that are relatively new and fresh but pretty cheap and I don't smoke them. So I am wondering if I can throw them in (after taking the wrappers and tags of of course). It is just tobacco. That is natural right? But will the nicotine (which is poisonous in high concentrations) harm the worms, beneficial insects, etc?
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| Unless you're vermicomposting, the microbes will take care of breaking down the cigars, including all the nicotine. I'd compost them. |
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- Posted by joepyeweed 5b IL (My Page) on Wed, Mar 31, 10 at 17:22
| If the tags are paper, I would compost them too! I know some of them tags are foil... I think the worms might get addicted though. |
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| You can compost them, however whether you should can only be determined by you. Whether the nicotine would have any adverse affects will depend on the dose. If you have a large numebr and compsot them all at once there could be adverse affects, but one or a very few (depending on the volume of your compost) at at time probably would have little affect. |
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| .. I don't think you want to. Like I need another reason to quit smoking. You probably want to avoid the Tobacco Mosaic Virus. http://www.extension.umn.edu/distribution/horticulture/DG1168.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobacco_mosaic_virus To sense |
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- Posted by albert_135 Sunset 2 or 3 (My Page) on Fri, Apr 2, 10 at 16:19
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| .. thanks albert_135 .. |
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| Isn't smoking tobacco treated with all kinds of other chemicals, too? Things like formaldehyde, benzene, acetone, arsenic, propylene glycol? Of course, that just might be cigarettes and not cigars. |
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| Hmmm. I've never composted whole cigars, but I tear up my cigar butts and toss them in the compost. Can tobacco mosaic virus survive the curing/fermentation process that cigar leaves undergo before they are rolled? If so, I'll stop putting my butts in the compost. |
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- Posted by toxcrusadr (My Page) on Mon, Apr 5, 10 at 12:12
| >>Isn't smoking tobacco treated with all kinds of other chemicals, too? Things like formaldehyde, benzene, acetone, arsenic, propylene glycol? Of course, that just might be cigarettes and not cigars. Those might be things found in the smoke that occur in the tobacco or are produced during combustion, but I can't imagine the FDA would allow some of those things to be *added* to tobacco since they are known toxins. Particularly formaldehyde, arsenic and benzene. I do think tobacco has additives, but that's not the same list as what appears in the smoke. |
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- Posted by garry(auto151394@hushmail.com) onThu, Aug 25, 11 at 22:02
| You might want to review the history of the FDA if you think they represent the American people and are interested in protecting us from the predatory corporations like Big Pharma, factory farms, and food processors! Read about the Vioxx whistle blower. The first step to understanding truths about our government is to suspend disbelief. Believe they will do the most evil things in the interest of enriching themselves, promoting their advancement or playing the lackey to corporate america (small a intended)! The path to truth is: 1. suspend disbelief, 2. be cynical 3. be pessimistic 4. expand your knowledge base and 5. follow the money! |
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- Posted by toxcrusadr (My Page) on Fri, Aug 26, 11 at 11:35
| garry, what you say has some merit, although way off topic and rather provocatively stated. I was about to agree and reinforce what the previous poster said about allowing those known toxins to be added to a product (which by the way would have no real beneficial effect, as opposed to flavorings, etc.). Then I realized it was me who wrote it back in April. Still stand by it. And I did not claim that FDA always does the right thing or that tobacco smoke is not toxic. |
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- Posted by tsugajunkie z5 SE WI (My Page) on Fri, Aug 26, 11 at 17:38
| "Can tobacco mosaic virus survive the curing/fermentation process that cigar leaves undergo before they are rolled?" Yes. The U of Minn article says cigars, cigarettes, and pipe tobaccos can be infected with tobacco mosaic virus. It also mentions it has been known to survive up to 50 years in dried plant parts. It further suggests that in order to prevent spreading it from an infected plant: "Tools used in transplanting can be placed in boiling water for 5 minutes and then washed with a strong soap or detergent solution. Dipping tools in household bleach is not effective for virus decontamination." Tough bugger, that virus. tj |
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| The mosaic virus does survive and spread from cigarettes. When I started in commercial nursery work, way back in the dark ages when everyone smoked, nursery owners did not allow workers to smoke on duty without washing their hands before returning to work. Nicotine is extremely toxic. Homemade insecticide recipes from the 19th century call for making a slurry from cigars. These recipes are way too toxic to be legal today. I wouldn't put too much confidence in the FDA not allowing toxic additives to tobacco products - come on! tobacco products cause premature death when used as directed! why worry about a few more carcinogens?? |
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- Posted by albert_135 Sunset 2 or 3 (My Page) on Sun, Aug 28, 11 at 14:25
Tomato-Tobacco Mosaic Virus Disease
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